Does LTCF only apply to handguns?

[acosenza2]

I was reading an article recently by someone who does firearms training for civilians. I get his email and this week he did a review of a bag that he could use to conceal, except the thing he was concealing was an AK with a folding stock. He carried the bag in public for sometime to see if he got any odd reactions, and he did not. The bag actually did not seem to look any different than a bag someone might carry books in.

I know in PA it is legal to own handguns and rifles, as well as AR's and AK's that are not automatic weapons. My question is this.....does my LTCF allow me to conceal carry a rifle such as an AK or AR?

I have never thought of it before until I read the article and became curious.

Anthony

[General Geoff]

technically speaking, a LTCF does not pertain to concealing a long gun, as they are not defined as firearms as it pertains to carry laws in Pennsylvania.

I'm not sure of the legality of it in general, however.

[lildobe]

Well, let's just look at the statutes, shall we? Specifically the Pennsylvania Uniform Firearms Act. Pa. Code Title 18, Chapter 61.

Definitions:
"Firearm." Any pistol or revolver with a barrel length less than 15 inches, any shotgun with a barrel length less than 18 inches or any rifle with a barrel length less than 16 inches, or any pistol, revolver, rifle or shotgun with an overall length of less than 26 inches. The barrel length of a firearm shall be determined by measuring from the muzzle of the barrel to the face of the closed action, bolt or cylinder, whichever is applicable.

A license to carry a firearm shall be for the purpose of carrying a firearm concealed on or about one's person or in a vehicle throughout this Commonwealth.

So, as defined in the statutes, a LTCF only applies to:
Pistols, Short Barrel Shotguns and Short Barrel Rifles.

[walther]

Well, let's just look at the statutes, shall we? Specifically the Pennsylvania Uniform Firearms Act. Pa. Code Title 18, Chapter 61.





So, as defined in the statutes, a LTCF only applies to:
Pistols, Short Barrel Shotguns and Short Barrel Rifles.

Yet another reason to own a SBR'ed AR15...

[lildobe]

Yet another reason to own a SBR'ed AR15...

Or the SBR FN-P90 that I've wanted for years

[Penguini66]

Well, let's just look at the statutes, shall we?

Is there a statute that says that you cannot conceal carry a rifle or shotgun on your person?

I'm pretty sure there was a thread that covered this. I've been looking and looking and for the life of me, I can't find it. IIRC, I'm pretty sure it is OK to open carry a loaded rifle and OK to conceal carry a loaded rifle as long as it is not in a car. But please, somebody correct me if I'm wrong.

[Zef_66]

Is there a statute that says that you cannot conceal carry a rifle or shotgun on your person?

I'm pretty sure there was a thread that covered this. I've been looking and looking and for the life of me, I can't find it. IIRC, I'm pretty sure it is OK to open carry a loaded rifle and OK to conceal carry a loaded rifle as long as it is not in a car. But please, somebody correct me if I'm wrong.

The statues that lildobe posted are exactly correct. You can concealed carry anything that PA deems is a firearm. And according to their definition, that includes pistols, revolvers, short barreled rifles, and short barreled shotguns.

You just might have a hard time convincing LEOs of that fact. But the law is just as he stated.

[JayBell]

Or the SBR FN-P90 that I've wanted for years

I already have that covered

[edstephan]

But a AR or AK with a folding stock will come in well below the 26" OAL when folded.
It is not considered an SBR or AOW as overall length is measured with stock extended.
Am I correct?
Ed

[lildobe]

I already have that covered

Jay, I think I love you...

If you weren't all the way on the other side fo the state... I'd SOOOO be all over you for a trip to the range