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  1. #101
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    Default Re: Duty to Inform when stopped by police

    If one has no intentions of getting into a shootout with the Police, the gun is a moot point.
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    Default Re: Duty to Inform when stopped by police

    Quote Originally Posted by Daycrawler View Post
    Umm yes it would be. What would you fight back with?
    You other guns?
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  3. #103
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    Default Re: Duty to Inform when stopped by police

    Quote Originally Posted by theduke View Post
    If one has no intentions of getting into a shootout with the Police, the gun is a moot point.
    I have the same intention of a police shootout as I do a shootout with someone in any other profession. We don't carry guns because of the high probability of need. We carry them, because when needed there are probably few other good options, and a life is at stake.

    It's not illegal to shoot a cop, on or off duty. The legality of the shooting hinges on the totality of the circumstances, not the occupations of the involved parties.
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  4. #104
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    Default Re: Duty to Inform when stopped by police

    There is a video I can't find right now, I thought it was on the YT PoliceActivity channel. It was somebody getting pulled over in either Ohio or Illinois at night. The badge cam audio has the driver saying he had a CCW and was carrying. The officer says something like "no problem, just don't touch it." From the badge and dash cam it appears the driver was reaching for his wallet or seatbelt latch when the cop starts screaming and then shoots the driver multiple times. I can't remember the outcome of the investigation if the driver had unholstered or even had the firearm on him (versus in the glove compartment). My take-away from this video was the cop was extremely nervous about the driver having a gun and interpreted whatever he was doing as reaching for that gun. This makes me give pause if I were to tell an officer voluntarily if I were carrying. Maybe if this driver wasn't reaching for his gun, but rather wallet, then the cop wouldn't have the program loaded to respond to that kind of movement. I'm speculating of course but it does make me think.

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