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January 23rd, 2017, 12:52 PM #1
Can you rack your slide in condition 2 with a Sig p238?
Dropped my p238 onto the carpeted floor today holstering with mittens on. Gun was in condition 1. My butt puckered a little but no ND. Tested function and noticed I could rack it with a mag inserted in condition Two (round in chamber, hammer back, and safety on).
Is this normal or did I bust something. I can't remember if this is factory or I need to see a smith. Safety still works and all is well otherwise.
Thanks guys!Emergency Medicine prevents natural selection
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January 23rd, 2017, 01:07 PM #2
Re: Can you rack your slide in condition 2 with a Sig p238?
Nope mine does the same thing.
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January 23rd, 2017, 01:28 PM #3Grand Member
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Re: Can you rack your slide in condition 2 with a Sig p238?
Yes, it is supposed to do that. Bigger question is, why the hell were you wearing mittens!?!
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January 23rd, 2017, 02:51 PM #4
Re: Can you rack your slide in condition 2 with a Sig p238?
Forgive me, but (for 1911s, at least):
- Condition 1 is chambered, cocked, and on safe. Design condition for a 1911. Hammer can't fall, slide can't move.
- Condition 2 is chambered, hammer down. Safety can not be engaged on a 1911 with hammer down, but it also can't fire (normally) without cocking. *Getting* to condition 2 requires pulling the trigger to release the hammer and riding the hammer down. IMO, beyond stupid. A Series 70 in Condition 2 is NOT drop safe, as the hammer is already on the firing pin and there's nothing to keep the pin from the primer except the spring. Bad juju. Very bad.
- Condition 3 is empty chamber, hammer down. No way it'll fire until racked.
Your description of Condition 2 matches my description of Condition 1. What's your Condition 1?
And, to Orlov's question, why were you wearing mittens on a carpeted floor?
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January 23rd, 2017, 03:17 PM #5
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January 23rd, 2017, 09:43 PM #6
Re: Can you rack your slide in condition 2 with a Sig p238?
P938/P238 allow you to rack in condition 1, you didn't break anything.
And agreed mittens don't go well with potentially having to pull a trigger
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January 24th, 2017, 10:55 AM #7
Re: Can you rack your slide in condition 2 with a Sig p238?
Of course you need mittens. You have to be able to defend yourself schussing down the Alps.
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January 24th, 2017, 11:39 AM #8
Re: Can you rack your slide in condition 2 with a Sig p238?
If a handgun breaks from a fall onto carpet in a home setting it would have blown up the first time it was fired. This is a good reason to have a drop safety preventing the gun from firing when dropped. Now back to mitten wearing. Why wear mittens in the house while handling loaded guns? Inquiring minds want to know.
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January 24th, 2017, 12:30 PM #9
Re: Can you rack your slide in condition 2 with a Sig p238?
Sooooooo many ways this thread could go terribly wrong.
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January 24th, 2017, 12:32 PM #10
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