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    Default Re: Jill Stein is questioning PA voter intergrity with a recount

    Quote Originally Posted by c45man View Post
    FInding 49,000 votes in warehouses, all for Hillary, would be a task at hand even for Democrats and their phantom ballots. Also finding 10s of thousand Hillary votes in MI, and WI would also be unlikely. Hillary must take all 3 states to win.

    Even Democrat judges are wary of establishing precedence that have double edges. Every vote will be contested with years attached to a settlement.
    Democrat Federal Judges have no such concerns. They are entirely result oriented. Precedent means nothing to them. As for finding 49K votes, do not underestimate the efficiency and audacity of the Democrat vote creating machine. The have had since November 9th to work at this. Between the votes they create and the votes for Trump that they get some toadying judge to throw out, they could do it.

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    Default Re: Jill Stein is questioning PA voter intergrity with a recount

    We need to make sure Jill Stein keeps getting funded for Presidential elections just as the democrats fund the Libertarian candidates.
    Corruption is the default behavior of government officials. JPC

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    Default Re: Jill Stein is questioning PA voter intergrity with a recount

    Stein helped Hillary lose. As one writer put it, she is like the woman who causes her best friend to get a divorce, then shows up at her house with a tray of home made cookies and a shoulder to cry on.

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    Default Re: Jill Stein is questioning PA voter intergrity with a recount

    Jill Stein, Elizabeth Liawatha Warren, Hillary, Pelosi, etc are all the same person. Identity politics, faux outrage, always citing racism, sexism, man made global warming, white guilt, and anyone who doesn't think like them are DEPLORABLES. The media ENABLES them to continue the lies, and false narrative to advance their totalitarian agenda. The Trump election put them on notice that most people are sick of them, and their lies for PERSONAL GAIN.

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    Default Re: Jill Stein is questioning PA voter intergrity with a recount

    Quote Originally Posted by Wilderness 1864 View Post
    Democrat Federal Judges have no such concerns. They are entirely result oriented. Precedent means nothing to them. As for finding 49K votes, do not underestimate the efficiency and audacity of the Democrat vote creating machine. The have had since November 9th to work at this. Between the votes they create and the votes for Trump that they get some toadying judge to throw out, they could do it.
    So in your scenario, Hillary, not trump, should be selecting cabinet members. The election was Nov. 9, yes, but the opposition wasted time in getting their organization up and running, and there is time limits as to when the electoral votes must be counted, otherwise. the matter is decided in Congress as to who the president is. In your scenario, the republicans may as well not even show up for election due to the fact that the Rs will never have enough votes to avoid recounts in close vote states and in your perspective, the democrats will totally control the recount while the republicans will set on the sideline and do nothing. If the dems are that good and manipulating recounts, they could "find" enough votes to nullify the Toomey victory. He did not win by that wide of a margin, and if he did, the Ds with their mystical powers can overcome any margin of defeat.
    Last edited by c45man; December 5th, 2016 at 10:03 AM.

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    Default Re: Jill Stein is questioning PA voter intergrity with a recount

    I think the goal was to prolong recounts until the deadline so the states electoral college votes were void. Then what? Nobody really knows the answer. I've seen nothing but I think this or that. They do know they won't overturn the results in each state.
    Any vote for a third party is a vote for a Democrat. You are the enemy.

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    Default Re: Jill Stein is questioning PA voter intergrity with a recount

    Quote Originally Posted by Yoder View Post
    I think the goal was to prolong recounts until the deadline so the states electoral college votes were void. Then what? Nobody really knows the answer. I've seen nothing but I think this or that. They do know they won't overturn the results in each state.
    According to the 12th Amendment, if neither candidate attains the 270 electoral votes to become president the matter is decided in Congress. This actually happened on Dec. 1, 1824. Being that the House of Reps and the Senate are controlled by the Rs, it would stand to reason that the Republican Candidate would prevail.

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    Default Re: Jill Stein is questioning PA voter intergrity with a recount

    Quote Originally Posted by c45man View Post
    According to the 12th Amendment, if neither candidate attains the 270 electoral votes to become president the matter is decided in Congress. This actually happened on Dec. 1, 1824. Being that the House of Reps and the Senate are controlled by the Rs, it would stand to reason that the Republican Candidate would prevail.
    Agreed. Unless the GOP establishment are truly suicidal as some are claiming.

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    Default Re: Jill Stein is questioning PA voter intergrity with a recount

    They do not need to manufacture 49K, they can cut into the Trump votes too. They find defects in the voting procedures in the rural counties (the equivalent of the hanging chads and dimples back in the Gore/Bush recount) and demand they be removed from the count. I do not underestimate them at all. Litigation will ensue of course but the Dems control the judiciary. Judges are huge in this effort. Dems have control of big city political machines in all of our cities. Remember the Gore/Bush recount -- a partisan Democrat Florida Supreme Court, on the flimsiest of evidence swung the count to Gore. A then more balanced US Supreme Court had to undo it. The whole thing was a travesty.

    Jill Stein says this is about assuring fair elections. What a lie! She is DNC/Hillary sock puppet. I wonder what she is getting for this? I think a recount, just recounts the ballots cast. I do not think it goes into the real source of the significant Democrat vote fraud machinery -- illegal registrations, non-citizen voting, false counts in Dem controlled voting districts. Jill Stein is challenging none of that. She is right about one thing, Americans do want honest elections, but nothing she is doing has anything to do with assuring honest elections.

    The recount is only part of the DNC strategy. Even if they get 1 or 2 of the 3 States to go Hillary. They take those Electoral votes and then they continue to flip Republican electors by bribes, death threats and sucking up to the Never Trumpers.

    Update: A Federal Judge sided with Jill ("Lil' Hill") Stein and ordered the recount to proceed. Biographical Note on the Federal District Court Judge who supports the Hillary recount:

    "Judge Mark A. Goldsmith was nominated to the United States District Court for the Eastern District of Michigan by President Barack Obama on February 4, 2010, and unanimously confirmed by the Senate on June 21, 2010."

    Hillary has disappeared from view except to pose as sweet Gramma Hillary in staged photo ops. She is behaving like Al Capone in Florida on February 14th. The DNC and Hillary's people are quietly doing their best to steal the election.
    Last edited by Wilderness 1864; December 5th, 2016 at 12:25 PM.

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    Default Re: Jill Stein is questioning PA voter intergrity with a recount

    I wont be surprised if the weak government we call PA will accept a recount, we have a dumb ass Governor as we had a Dumb ass before him Rendell, we need to reform the PA government as we see fit , the democrats just make this a "welfare state" while the hardworking people of PA suffer for it.


    we will drown in debt and the government doesnt see the long term effect it is having, just like they picked the worst possible candidate to rule the minority Nancy "Ugly as fuck" Pelosi.


    we been fighting too hard to preserve our gun rights , now its time to fight this debauchery going on!

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