PA Law on Surrendering Firearm During a Stop

[Kabloosh]

In Philadelphia I believe we had instructions that we could disarm if we thought there was a safety issue. I have to admit, the safety issue would be a cop handling an unfamiliar firearm. (A few years ago we had a female officer discharge a persons revolver because she was only familiar with the workings of a Glock). And we have many who want to run the serial number to see if it is stolen.

I think it's silly you guys run serial numbers like that especially if the guy produces a LTCF first. Someone producing one of those is generally going to not be an moron and walk around with a stolen firearm.

[Odocoileus1]

I think it's silly you guys run serial numbers like that especially if the guy produces a LTCF first. Someone producing one of those is generally going to not be an moron and walk around with a stolen firearm.

I don't think it's silly at all, it's very serious. It is a warrantless seizure of your personal property which is not something I think anyone should consent to, I certainly will not. And your point is absolutely correct that anyone announcing they are legally carrying and shows proof of that is obviously not doing anything wrong and therefore the cop has zero reasonable suspicion to legitimately disarm you. I suppose this is where many folks argue that saying nothing about the gun in the first place is the best route to go.

[kp15460]

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[PAMedic=F|A=]

There could of been a handful of legit reasons. I hope you don't let things like this ruin your day. Life is too short.

Which maybe true, but in clear violation of the law.

Not that the laws regarding lights and emergency vehicles are written well or with any actually understanding of safety, research or experience.

If they were we would all be required to use at least a mechanical siren, have air-horns and a rumbler. Because we all know a eletronic siren is good for about 50 feet or less at highway speed, and the human ear has trouble detecting the direction of higher pitched (traditional siren) sounds.

Hell, you cops don't even have to use lights. Just the siren. You know, the left effective warning device. Who the hell thought that was a good idea?

[Carson]

Which maybe true, but in clear violation of the law.

So is parking in the middle of South Broad Street in Philadelphia.

I don't think anyone wants us to enforce every law, every second of the day.

[Bang]

You're just pissed 'cause you can't do it. Tough shit. If you can't fight 'em, join 'em...if you have what it takes.

[PAMedic=F|A=]

So is parking in the middle of South Broad Street in Philadelphia.

I don't think anyone wants us to enforce every law, every second of the day.

IF that IS the case, it means we have to many laws, many of which are useless, or completely unneeded. You, however, know that far better than I.