New Member CCL travelling to PA N.J N.Y

[Ted.w]

Hi, new member ccl from Kansas looking to store my wife's and mine pistols for a week before we cross into New Jersey and New York which is our destination until our return to PA and back to Kansas. Anybody have a shop they recommend for storage / service near the Jersey border? We know better than to bring HP .40 Cal into Jersey or New York. I feel like we are travelling to a foreign country entering into NJ / NY stripped of our 2nd amendment rights at the border. We have reciprocity with Pennsylvania with our CCL permits as you do with us in Kansas. Thank you Ted.w

[markshere2]

I'd let you store them here, but I am out in the boonies in the north west corner of the state.

Any of yinz folks in the east wanna do a Kansas outreach program?

[Ted.w]

I'd let you store them here, but I am out in the boonies in the north west corner of the state.

Any of yinz folks in the east wanna do a Kansas outreach program?

Thanks for your offer Mark Shere. I am also the admin for Everytown For Gun Safety Kansas on facebook which we claimed before Mayor Bloomburg was aware enough to claim the name lol!

[MovingtoAmerica]

Hi, new member ccl from Kansas looking to store my wife's and mine pistols for a week before we cross into New Jersey and New York which is our destination until our return to PA and back to Kansas. Anybody have a shop they recommend for storage / service near the Jersey border? We know better than to bring HP .40 Cal into Jersey or New York. I feel like we are travelling to a foreign country entering into NJ / NY stripped of our 2nd amendment rights at the border. We have reciprocity with Pennsylvania with our CCL permits as you do with us in Kansas. Thank you Ted.w

I live in PA about 2 miles from the NJ border and about 30 mins away from NY. Do you know what part of PA you would be passing through to get into NY or NJ?

[BenFoo]

Which route/s are you traveling? Might give folks a better view as to what might be "close".

[tl_3237]

Just a note of caution if the OP is planning to drop off the firearms to a PA resident before entering unfriendly territory:

Federal law, with a few inapplicable exceptions, prohibits non-FFL transfer of possession of firearms between residents of different states [ref 18 USC 922(a)(5)]. If the OP places them into a locked container in which only he has access, there may be a viable argument that no transfer of possession took place however that is a matter of court interpretation and a favorable ruling should not be assumed.

18 USC §922. Unlawful acts

(a) It shall be unlawful-

(5) for any person (other than a licensed importer, licensed manufacturer, licensed dealer, or licensed collector) to transfer, sell, trade, give, transport, or deliver any firearm to any person (other than a licensed importer, licensed manufacturer, licensed dealer, or licensed collector) who the transferor knows or has reasonable cause to believe does not reside in (or if the person is a corporation or other business entity, does not maintain a place of business in) the State in which the transferor resides; except that this paragraph shall not apply to (A) the transfer, transportation, or delivery of a firearm made to carry out a bequest of a firearm to, or an acquisition by intestate succession of a firearm by, a person who is permitted to acquire or possess a firearm under the laws of the State of his residence, and (B) the loan or rental of a firearm to any person for temporary use for lawful sporting purposes;

[Ted.w]

Just a note of caution if the OP is planning to drop off the firearms to a PA resident before entering unfriendly territory:

Federal law, with a few inapplicable exceptions, prohibits non-FFL transfer of possession of firearms between residents of different states [ref 18 USC 922(a)(5)]. If the OP places them into a locked container in which only he has access, there may be a viable argument that no transfer of possession took place however that is a matter of court interpretation and a favorable ruling should not be assumed.

Thank you for the note of caution. I really don't want to jeopardize anyone's legality. I think my best bet would be to find a FFl and drop the pistols off for service and retrieve them on our return trip. Can anyone recommend a dealer in the Pocono East Stroudsburg area?

[Ted.w]

Just a note of caution if the OP is planning to drop off the firearms to a PA resident before entering unfriendly territory:

Federal law, with a few inapplicable exceptions, prohibits non-FFL transfer of possession of firearms between residents of different states [ref 18 USC 922(a)(5)]. If the OP places them into a locked container in which only he has access, there may be a viable argument that no transfer of possession took place however that is a matter of court interpretation and a favorable ruling should not be assumed.

Thank you for your replies. We would rather not have to present a viable argument in court. I will be looking for an FFL for service and temporary storage or a locked storage facility in the Stroudsburg Pocono area.

[theschwarz1]

This is interesting and I am looking up some legalities on this issue as I am hoping to open up gun storage services along the PA/NY border, and PA/NJ border. Posession and Transfer are two words that need to be clearly understood.
I am looking to purchase property right on the border at the last exit so it is easy on/off with secure personal safes. YOu can choose to have your firearm cleaned while its in storage as well.
Any input? Is this a service you all would make use of? How much would you pay for such a service? Daily? Weekly? Long term storage?