I'll be at South Philadelphia Archery & Gun today (03/25/06)

**danp** · March 25th, 2006, 01:08 PM

I'm taking off in a little bit and plan to spend most of the day there shooting .22 out of my M16. If you're in philly and shoot there feel free to say stop by and say hi.

South Philadelphia Archery & Gun
831 Elsworth St.
Philadelphia, PA

**phillyd2** · March 25th, 2006, 01:18 PM

Have fun. Every day is a good to shoot!

Sadly, I'm off to the Home & Garden Show today...

BTW, .22 on a M16? Full Auto?

**FlyinGN** · March 25th, 2006, 03:08 PM

wish we had no where to go today or I woulda been there with ya

**danp** · March 25th, 2006, 05:28 PM

Originally Posted by phillyd2

BTW, .22 on a M16? Full Auto?

Sure thing! The best investment I ever made: Ciener Conversion Kit

He has a version for the AR15 and the M16 (the only difference being the M16 version has a lead weight to prevent bolt bounce and comes with a sear trip)

They run about $200 but they'll pay for themself within a few trips to the range. .22lr out of the AR15/M16 platform is really quite fun to shoot as there it little to no recoil. Even on full-auto I can dump a mag into something the size of a quarter with enough practice at 20-30 feet.

If you buy one though DO NOT buy it directly from that website, the guy who makes them (John Ciener) is notoriously terrible about customer service and in some cases just doesn't or forgets to ship orders out from what I've heard. If you can find a dealer or another websites that re-sells his kits even if they cost a little more.

**phillyd2** · March 25th, 2006, 10:42 PM

Thanks for the info.

Hmmm, I've actually considered a .22 conversion for my Colt AR-15 but somewhere I read or heard that there is a issue shooting .22 in a .223 barrel and its best to get a complete .22 upper. Any thoughts on if this is true? I wish I could remember what the negative issue was. Seem to think it has something to do with the smaller .22 hitting the inside of the barrel.....?

**danp** · March 26th, 2006, 12:03 AM

Originally Posted by phillyd2

Thanks for the info.

Hmmm, I've actually considered a .22 conversion for my Colt AR-15 but somewhere I read or heard that there is a issue shooting .22 in a .223 barrel and its best to get a complete .22 upper. Any thoughts on if this is true? I wish I could remember what the negative issue was. Seem to think it has something to do with the smaller .22 hitting the inside of the barrel.....?

I've never had an issue with it, I constantly go back and forth between .22 and .223 in my normal .223 barrel. If it's ever an issue I'll just buy a new one. For me, I go to the range twice a week and take the subway so carrying an extra upper along wouldn't be fun.