cz-52

[Rosko Packer]

Anybody know about the accuracy potential of the old cz-52s 7.62 Tok. ? I have 2 and neither one shoots worth a darn. They are used of course, but bores are good and overall cond. is good too. I see unissued barrels for sale, would it be worth a shot? The round is hot and these pistols always go bang when "asked". I can hit a man-sized at 50yds (usually), but there's no telling exactly where. Shooting at 25, hits fall all over the dial at up to 6-7 inches from the BE. Can I make these do better? I have little tolerance for inaccuracy (only accurate firearms are interesting ). Any suggestions? I have lots of shooters so if you say "toss em' " that's OK.

[mrnyman]

What ammo are you using?

Fantastic Gun for a gun built several years before i were born, i love mine, never failed in any way, problem is the accuracy, solution , change out he tiny rear sight for a peep sight from www.makarov.com only about $4 , then put some red nail polish on the backside of the front sight, then "give it a shot"

Again what ammo are you using?

I use S&B 85 grain, they measure about 1600 fps 12 feet from the muzzle , pity the man that get in the way of one of these.

The Fiocchi's are very hot too but i havent tried them yet.

Dont give up on it yet , its a very interesting firearm.

Nyman

[Rosko Packer]

The sights ARE the pits. I'll try your sugg. I tried some Winchester and I have some recent (?) military stuff. I'll get the sight picture better and try some other ammo brands. I have one of those little PA-9X18 Mak Walther look-alikes too. With the old military ammo given 2 me with the gun, it's accuracy blew me away (1-1 1/2in @ 25 yrds). With every other ammo I've tried it's more like about a 5in. shooter. I didn't pay attention to the mil. ammo (got it in a sack) then it was gone and the fun was over. I think it was way heavy compared to what I have been able to find since. Ammo can definitely be a key. Thanks 4 the input. I'll let U no when I can give things a go.

[Karl/PA]

The sights ARE the pits. I'll try your sugg. I tried some Winchester and I have some recent (?) military stuff. I'll get the sight picture better and try some other ammo brands. I have one of those little PA-9X18 Mak Walther look-alikes too. With the old military ammo given 2 me with the gun, it's accuracy blew me away (1-1 1/2in @ 25 yrds). With every other ammo I've tried it's more like about a 5in. shooter. I didn't pay attention to the mil. ammo (got it in a sack) then it was gone and the fun was over. I think it was way heavy compared to what I have been able to find since. Ammo can definitely be a key. Thanks 4 the input. I'll let U no when I can give things a go.

You've answered your own questions there. The 9x18 is no power match for the Tok but can be more accurate. You should shoot the CZ at night. Minimum 4 foot flame! Its also good for ensuring plenty of space at the range too with that blast. In the heavier and longer-barreled TT33 the Tok ammo really comes into its own.

Just remember not to go heavier than 95 gr. in the PA. Its not made for it.

[MrUgly]

Also, on your CZ, look on the top of the slide, toward the front sight. How many "pings" do you see? 1 = just barely passed QC. 5 = Darned fine shooter

[mrnyman]

Rosko, I have one of the PA 64 Polish 9x18 in my Eastern European collection too , and yes the accuracy Blew me away too the first time i shot it.

But to make it sweeter i changed out all the springs with Walther ppk springs, it now has a Walther 16 lbs. spring instead of that heavy 26 lb or so trigger spring, its now a sweet shooter. You can go to www.gunsprings.com and purchase a Wolff spring set for a Walther. only about $8.

Let us know how the CZ turns out.

Nyman

[wizzegun]

Mr Ugly, you were close with the punch marks on the sight rib. 1 is the best and more is not better.

[bravo30]

i remember researching mine and those marks having no reference to accuracy ! ..ohh well maybe i researched wrong who knows , i love the gun ..accurate , powerfull , durable ( can hammer down a nail if need be )

anywho check out reedsammo.com they make some nasty self defense ammo for the cz-52 and if you get some dont forget to get the 18.5lb recoil spring and new firing pin ( spend the extra money and get a good pin)

7.62x25 100g Hornady SJ-SP
7.62x25 100g Hornady XTP-HP
7.62x25 110g FMJ (Safe for TT-33)
7.62x25 110g SP
7.62x25 60g Gold-Dot HP
7.62x25 60g Hornady XTP-HP
7.62x25 85g Hornady XTP-HP
7.62x25 85g RNSP
7.62x25 85g Speer JHC (Safe for TT-33)
7.62x25 90g XTP-HP
7.62x25 93g Hornady SP

[bravo30]

i just came up with this after a quick search ..and to think about it i never understood the whole ''dot'' accuracy theory on a refurb'd gun , they all leave the factory after being refurb'd pretty much the same right ? and i highly doubt they took the time test them for accuracy and if they did wouldnt there be 2 sets of dots ?? 1 orriginal set and 1 set after being refurb'd ?? unless they only tested them for accurracy after beinng refurb'd ahhhhh who knows i give up ( info below without spelling/grammer errors are quoted from web searches and not mine lol )

''Dots on top of the slide indicate Rockwell hardness testing. When metal is heat-treated, you use a punch of a known hardness, and when the punch no longer leaves a mark, the heat treatment is complete because the slide is harder than the punch.''


also found this to be pretty interesting ,


''Now here is where it gets interesting. Notice when people complain about "prick" marks on the top of the slide, they mention that they have 1, 5, 6 , 7, 11 and so on.. Ever wonder why there are no numbers greater than 12 - because a clock only has 12 positions. My CZ 52 has 6 prick marks and as follows shoots about 5 inches low from point of aim at 75 feet (my indoor range's limitation) with 50's era surplus ammo. My friend's has one prick and consequently shoots about 2 1/2 inches high and to the right of point of aim at 25 meters. A "5" would shoot low and to the right of POA and so on. I plan to shave about a millimeter of my front sight to correct my point of aim. As far as I know, I haven't heard of any 3, 9's or 12's reported since the 3's and 9's should be able to be corrected by drifting the rear sight and 12's I don't know what they would do.

The prick punches number DOES NOT REFER TO ACCURACY, ONLY POINT OF AIM, because if the individual vectors exceeded a 12 cm spread (farthest point to farthest point from center) , reportedly the barrel was scrapped!(I wish LLama had similar standards 'cause I have a Mini-Max Sub-compact 45 that has flyers everywhere at 25 yards(24 meters) So there you have it. A "1", "5", "7" and "11" are technically just as accurate as each other. Now I wonder if the ones with no "pricks" are worth a premium.

I am so glad to have found that info so I don't have to hear crap like "those pricks are machinist marks and refer to the hardness of the slide's steel" and other contrived explanations like that , that have so permeated this and other forums. People come to forums for info not conjecture and hypothesis. If a person doesn't know what something means, instead of giving their own cute spin, they should admit they don't know and not confuse everyone else with BS. NOW if we could only get preachers to preach the whole TRUTH and not their spin on it! ''

[Ithaca1937]

''Now here is where it gets interesting. Notice when people complain about "prick" marks on the top of the slide, they mention that they have 1, 5, 6 , 7, 11 and so on.. Ever wonder why there are no numbers greater than 12 - because a clock only has 12 positions. My CZ 52 has 6 prick marks and as follows shoots about 5 inches low from point of aim at 75 feet (my indoor range's limitation) with 50's era surplus ammo. My friend's has one prick and consequently shoots about 2 1/2 inches high and to the right of point of aim at 25 meters. A "5" would shoot low and to the right of POA and so on. I plan to shave about a millimeter of my front sight to correct my point of aim. As far as I know, I haven't heard of any 3, 9's or 12's reported since the 3's and 9's should be able to be corrected by drifting the rear sight and 12's I don't know what they would do.

The prick punches number DOES NOT REFER TO ACCURACY, ONLY POINT OF AIM, because if the individual vectors exceeded a 12 cm spread (farthest point to farthest point from center) , reportedly the barrel was scrapped!(I wish LLama had similar standards 'cause I have a Mini-Max Sub-compact 45 that has flyers everywhere at 25 yards(24 meters) So there you have it. A "1", "5", "7" and "11" are technically just as accurate as each other. Now I wonder if the ones with no "pricks" are worth a premium.

I am so glad to have found that info so I don't have to hear crap like "those pricks are machinist marks and refer to the hardness of the slide's steel" and other contrived explanations like that , that have so permeated this and other forums. People come to forums for info not conjecture and hypothesis. If a person doesn't know what something means, instead of giving their own cute spin, they should admit they don't know and not confuse everyone else with BS. NOW if we could only get preachers to preach the whole TRUTH and not their spin on it! ''

I've never heard that one before. On my CZ52 there is 1 on the slide top, 3 on the barrel, and 5 on the take down latch. If they are for point of aim then why put them in more then one place and why the take down latch?