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February 26th, 2016, 09:37 AM #1
UPDATE****3/3 Constitutional Carry Convincingly Passes in West Virginia Senate
The West Virginia Senate passed a sweeping firearms reform bill today by convincing 24-9 majority.
Legislation to permit concealed carry of firearms without permits, background checks, or safety training (HB4145) passed the Senate Monday on a 24-9 vote.
Opponents of the measure cited near-unanimous opposition from law enforcement agencies, with Sen. Bob Beach, D-Monongalia, commenting, Were setting into play a situation where we could have blood on our hands.
Proponents, however, said encouraging an armed citizenry will make the state safer.
One thing is certain: Where there are gun-free zones, there are more gun violence, said Sen. Craig Blair, R-Berkeley.
Likewise, Senate Judiciary Chairman Charles Trump, R-Morgan, cited a number of mass shootings, including weekend violence in Kalamazoo, Mich.
Its hard to know whether or not an armed citizen would have been able to prevent some of that loss of life, said Trump, who described the legislation as an expansion of the right to bear arms.
The bill will go back to the House to reconcile minor differences between the House and Senate versions of the legislation before being sent to Gov. Earl Ray Tomblin.
http://bearingarms.com/constitutiona...rginia-senate/
My goodness...do these progressives [ever] stop? Blood on the hands? How? Criminals will carry regardless and they'll get guns regardless.....A permit process does not [ever] stop a criminal from carrying.
http://www.captainsjournal.com/2016/...27s+Journal%29
West Virginia Lawmakers Eliminate Concealed Handgun Carry Permit Requirements
CHARLESTON, West Virginia The West Virginia Legislature has approved legislation allowing residents 21 or older to carry a concealed gun without first obtaining a permit or undergoing training.
The measure, passed on a bipartisan vote Wednesday, now goes to Gov. Earl Ray Tomblin for his review. He vetoed a similar bill last year.
Most states require concealed carry permits.
West Virginians between the ages of 18 and 21 could receive a provisional concealed carry permit and would be required to undergo training on proper use of guns.
Passed on bipartisan votes by both the state Senate and the House of Delegates, the proposed law includes a $50 tax credit for residents trained to carry a deadly weapon.
Senate Majority Leader Mitch Carmichael, R-Jackson, said credit would cost the state $3 million.
The bill was opposed by the West Virginia Sheriffs Association and the West Virginia Association of Counties.
Of course the bill was opposed by law enforcement. Of course it was. Heres a prediction for you (and if we can remember it a year from now and find adequate data on this, well assess my prediction). Nothing will happen. The doomsday predictions the LEOs most assuredly made will not obtain. There wont be any discernible change in the number of firearms related crimes as a result of the elimination of permitting requirements.
Who wants to call me wrong on this?Last edited by mikelets456; March 3rd, 2016 at 02:34 PM.
"I prefer dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery." Thomas Jefferson
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February 26th, 2016, 07:31 PM #2Grand Member
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Re: Constitutional Carry Convincingly Passes in West Virginia Senate
Nice!
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February 26th, 2016, 08:17 PM #3
Re: Constitutional Carry Convincingly Passes in West Virginia Senate
Deja vu
Hopefully governor won't veto again
But even so, I think we have the numbers to override this yearMontani Semper Liberi
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Re: Constitutional Carry Convincingly Passes in West Virginia Senate
There should be more time this year. As I recall last year it was vetoed right at the end of the legislative session and there wasn't enough time to get everyone back in chambers to do an override.
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Re: Constitutional Carry Convincingly Passes in West Virginia Senate
Vetoed today 3/3/16. Back to the House to start the override procedures. Hope they succeed.
https://www.nraila.org/articles/2016...ess-carry-bill
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March 3rd, 2016, 11:17 PM #7
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March 4th, 2016, 05:46 PM #8
Re: Constitutional Carry Convincingly Passes in West Virginia Senate
That's what they said:
Only the WV Senate remains!
http://www.wdtv.com/wdtv.cfm?func=vi...rry-Veto-29138
House Votes to Override Concealed Carry Veto
Written by Schuyler Harvath
Last updated on March 04, 2016 @ 2:26PM
Created on March 04, 2016 @ 12:33PM
CHARLESTON, W.Va. (AP) - West Virginia is close to joining a short list of states that let people carry hidden guns without permits or training.
The GOP-led House voted Friday to override Democratic Gov. Earl Ray Tomblin's veto of the bill. The Senate will likely follow.
The bill would take effect in late May.
Surrounded by law enforcement officials Thursday, Tomblin vetoed the bill over safety concerns. He vetoed similar legislation last year.
It's legal in West Virginia to carry guns openly - in a holster, for instance - without permits.
The bill would let people conceal guns in public without permits, by wearing a coat for example. People ages 18 through 20 would need permits and training with live firing.
Alaska, Wyoming, Arizona, Vermont, Maine and Kansas similarly don't require concealed carry permits."I prefer dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery." Thomas Jefferson
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March 4th, 2016, 05:51 PM #9
Re: Constitutional Carry Convincingly Passes in West Virginia Senate
Where in the constitution does it say you need a permit, backgroung check, and safety training to exercise your god given second amendment right?
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March 4th, 2016, 05:56 PM #10
Re: Constitutional Carry Convincingly Passes in West Virginia Senate
Where in the constitution does it say the pursuit of happiness does not include the "privilege" of driving a motor vehicle???
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