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    Default Doctors can report some mentally ill patients to FBI under new gun control rule Read

    Delivering on its promise to deliver "common sense" gun control, the Obama administration on Monday finalized a rule that enables health care providers to report the names of mentally ill patients to an FBI firearms background check system.
    The action was one of a series of steps that President Barack Obama had called for in January 2013 in the wake of the Newtown, Conn., shootings to curb gun violence, but the rule was not published until today.
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    While the 1993 Brady law prohibits gun ownership by individuals who have been involuntarily committed, found incompetent to stand trial or otherwise deemed by a court to be a danger to themselves or others, federal health care privacy rules prohibited doctors and other providers from sharing information without the consent of their patients.
    Under the rule, which takes effect next month, for the first time health providers can disclose the information to the background check system without legal repercussions.
    “The disclosure is restricted to limited demographic and certain other information needed for NICS purposes,” the rule states. Disclosure of diagnostic or clinical information is prohibited.

    Paul Gionfriddo, chief executive of the mental health rights advocate Mental Health America, said he believes the White House strikes the right balance between the need to have this information shared with the FBI’s background check system and protecting individuals’ privacy.
    Current law allows HIPAA exclusions for law enforcement purposes, but it's a broad exclusion.

    “That could be a barn door opened quite wide if an administration really wanted to open it, and they didn’t,” Gionfriddo said. “The administration has taken great pain to try to clarify that there is very limited information that would be reported only within a very limited group.”
    Since the Newtown shootings, the number of mental health records submitted to the FBI system has tripled to more than 3 million records, according to an analysis by Everytown for Gun Safety, a group promoting an end to gun violence. The FBI system resulted in more than 6,000 denials of firearm purchases because of mental health criteria.


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    Default Re: Doctors can report some mentally ill patients to FBI under new gun control rule

    Where is the due process that is supposed to be involved?

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    Default Re: Doctors can report some mentally ill patients to FBI under new gun control rule

    So..anyone thinking of getting "help" if needed no longer does for fear of being reported. Bravo. Well done.
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    Default Re: Doctors can report some mentally ill patients to FBI under new gun control rule

    6000 denials for purchases and how many prosecutions by the fed? Around 60 per year last time I checked, and that was for failed checks based on all prohibiting factors.

    This is just more feel good BS from the POtuS; they don't want a true reduction in crime, it would ruin their narrative! They just want to keep passing laws with no due process or recourse to disarm more and more people.
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    Default Re: Doctors can report some mentally ill patients to FBI under new gun control rule

    I'm sure they won't be using those questionnaires where they ask about guns in the home to ask even more questions about depression and such during the visit either. I'm just waiting until it's a crime to lie on those forms.
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    Default Re: Doctors can report some mentally ill patients to FBI under new gun control rule

    That anti-2A doctor you went to 15 years ago is running a query on the Congressional mandated electronic medical records as we speak.

    "That's not what this is for."

    "They wouldn't do that."

    Abuse of your information and privacy is always inevitable and always retroactive. It is guaranteed the instant you hand it over, not when they change their minds and fuck you 15 years later.
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    Default Re: Doctors can report some mentally ill patients to FBI under new gun control rule

    Quote Originally Posted by ungawa View Post
    That anti-2A doctor you went to 15 years ago is running a query on the Congressional mandated electronic medical records as we speak.

    "That's not what this is for."

    "They wouldn't do that."

    Abuse of your information and privacy is always inevitable and always retroactive. It is guaranteed the instant you hand it over, not when they change their minds and fuck you 15 years later.
    Paranoia is a mental illness no guns for you.
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    all you get is ridicule, laughter,
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    Default Re: Doctors can report some mentally ill patients to FBI under new gun control rule

    Another way to take away/refuse a license to carry because of a doctor's opinion.

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    Default Re: Doctors can report some mentally ill patients to FBI under new gun control rule

    Soviet style of mental health, to crush dissent. In this case, gun ownership. Don't kid yourself; the ultimate goal is to disarm the American citizenry. Directly, or indirectly.

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    Default Re: Doctors can report some mentally ill patients to FBI under new gun control rule

    Quote Originally Posted by Didnotcomply89 View Post
    Where is the due process that is supposed to be involved?
    HAHAHAHAHA - next you will be doing something dumb like quoting the Constitution...

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