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December 20th, 2015, 02:33 PM #21Super Member
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Re: Trump and Guns
we can't trust some one with out a voting record . i would like to see him in another role vp, immigration . also no one has voted yet so the numbers are just numbers .
Clinton and Jackson were the only ones impeached . Nixon left before he could be .
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December 20th, 2015, 02:47 PM #22
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I'm not a huge fan of Trump, but he's a far sight better than any of the Dem candidates, and some of the Republicans too. My only concern is that he's a New Yorker, and a conservative New Yorker is typically far more liberal than the average conservative across the nation. As such, I have a funny feeling that on the gun issue, Trump will do what pretty much every other GOP election winner (Congress, Executive, or otherwise) has done in the past: claim staunch support for gun rights during his election to garner votes, and then do NOTHING to advance our cause once elected.
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December 20th, 2015, 03:44 PM #23
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You're probably right, but I don't think he's going to actively go after our rights either. I'm far from a trump supporter. I'd rather vote for him than for any of the socialist candidates. Could we loose gun rights with trump as POTUS? Sure, but I will guarantee any dem candidate will make it their priority to make sure we do from day one.
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December 20th, 2015, 03:57 PM #24Banned
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Trump has called for gun control in the past, voted (and registered) and gave inordinate amounts of money to Democrats.
Someone called for Accountability earlier. It never ceases to amaze me how people are willing to forget what the man has said and written whilst falling for the populist reality-tv show schtick.
And that's before we face the polling reality that Trump gets crushed by Hillary if that's the general matchup.
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December 20th, 2015, 04:06 PM #25
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If he ends up with the nomination and it's him vs. any of the Dem candidates, who else would you vote for? Would you vote Hillary or Bernie?
PA is too late in the primaries to make a difference usually. If I have a vote in the primary, it won't be Trump, it will be Cruz since I'm sure most of the other candidates will be long gone. But I will vote Trump in the general because to do anything else is cutting off my nose to spite my face. Besides, at least he's not the Republican establishment candidate so I'm sending a message to them as well. I can't control if he wins or loses against Hillary."A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself"
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December 20th, 2015, 04:38 PM #28
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And your solution is? If trump gets the nomination, what's our other options? We're stuck with the hand we're dealt after the primary. Staying home or throwing a vote away does as much good as bitching about how Hillary or Sanders is stealing our rights if they win.
Reality check time people. Either of the democrats, if they win will take away your gun rights. They have said as much openly. Trump sucks, but at least he's not guaranteed to take away your rights like the other guy's.
If it comes down to trump vs. anyone on the left, you better suck it up and take a shot on the narcissistic wind bag. Otherwise by February next year we'll be dealing with a federal assault weapons ban part II and I think they've learned not to put an expiration date on it this time.
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December 20th, 2015, 04:38 PM #29
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Anybody vs. Hillary in the General Election will get my vote. If it is Trump, so be it, but I would much rather see Cruz.
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December 20th, 2015, 04:39 PM #30
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