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    Default Re: Jeb Bush: There’s Not a National Right to Gun Ownership

    Fuck Bush (See what I did there?).................
    A Republic, if you can keep it.

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    Default Re: Jeb Bush: There’s Not a National Right to Gun Ownership

    Quote Originally Posted by bogey1 View Post
    So, he's a democrat now?
    No, but he shows a lack of knowledge of the constitution.

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    Default Re: Jeb Bush: There’s Not a National Right to Gun Ownership

    Wow... just wow!

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    Default Re: Jeb Bush: There’s Not a National Right to Gun Ownership

    Quote Originally Posted by john9001 View Post
    No, but he shows a lack of knowledge of the constitution.
    He knows the Constitution. It's a living, breathing document don't you know. There is a very real reason why the establishment doesn't like Trump, Carson and Fiorina. They don't fit the mold which leads me to believe they are more than worthy of our consideration.

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    Default Re: Jeb Bush: There’s Not a National Right to Gun Ownership

    we all know he has no chance
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    Default Re: Jeb Bush: There’s Not a National Right to Gun Ownership

    Quote Originally Posted by gummy jones View Post
    we all know he has no chance
    Depends on what the electoral college thinks.

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    Default Re: Jeb Bush: There’s Not a National Right to Gun Ownership

    Jeb's a dummy, and he must not have read the Constitution or the Bill of Rights in awhile. Or read Supreme Court rulings in the last few years, for that matter.

    First, the 10th Amendment was meant to be a catch-all in favor of the people, basically making it clear that the ONLY powers the federal government has are those which have clearly been outlined in the Constitution, or in law. Any powers not specifically assigned the federal government by the states through the Constitution and/or law are within the jurisdiction of the states, or the people.

    Second, the 10th Amendment mentions discusses the powers assigned to the federal government relative to the states. It says nothing about RIGHTS. The issue is often called "state's rights", but states don't have rights. People have rights.

    Third, if Jeb is attempting to argue that states have the power or authority to prohibit the right to arms under the 10th Amendment, he's wrong again. The 14th Amendment extended federal protection of civil rights to the state level, and this protection, specific to the 2nd Amendment, was upheld by the SCotUS in McDonald v Chicago. Although it's generally considered OK to pass licensing and regulatory laws as it pertains to rights, in the context of the new rulings passed, none of this can be done if the intent or result is to prohibit or hinder the exercise of said rights.

    To say that the 10th Amendment makes it OK to pass gun legislation is shortsighted, foolish, and pretty much what I'd expect to hear from Jeb. I pray to the Almighty that he doesn't make it anywhere near the Oval Office.
    "Political Correctness is just tyranny with manners"
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    "[The Constitution preserves] the advantage of being armed which Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation...(where) the governments are afraid to trust the people with arms."
    -James Madison, Federalist Papers, No. 46.

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    Default Re: Jeb Bush: There’s Not a National Right to Gun Ownership

    So there isn't a right to national gun ownership but there is a right to healthcare?
    Rules are written in the stone,
    Break the rules and you get no bones,
    all you get is ridicule, laughter,
    and a trip to the house of pain.

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    Default Re: Jeb Bush: There’s Not a National Right to Gun Ownership

    Quote Originally Posted by streaker69 View Post
    So there isn't a right to national gun ownership but there is a right to healthcare?
    So good to see that you have had the Obamacare reeducation class!
    Gun owners bad-Obamacare good!
    In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. George Orwell

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    Default Re: Jeb Bush: There’s Not a National Right to Gun Ownership

    The states agreed to the Bill of Rights. They signed off that they were not negotiable, and not up to the states to decide. Bush is a placating idiot.

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