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September 2nd, 2015, 09:34 AM #1Super Member
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28th amendment to the Constitution- Right to be Free from gun violence ?
He is calling for a 28th amendment to the Constitution: "The right of Americans to go about their lives in peace without fear of victimization by gun violence shall not be abridged."
Wacky Utopian thinking. All should be peaceful for me all the time! No worries or fears. All we need is a new amendment and ZAP the bad people will stop killing. It will work like the "gun free" zones.
He states that overwhelming majority of American gun owners are responsible people! What I thought were crazed members of the NRA!!! Remember the nasty NRA decal that causes people to have fits from just seeing the sticker. The left tells us all gun owners have some sort of dangerous mental problem to want to own guns. Now they want us crazy gun owners to lead a nationwide dialog on firearms?
All I can say is Bizarre.... He uses lies and distortions as usual!
http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/l...ndment/322346/
The toll of victims of gun violence increases weekly.
Last Wednesday, TV newscaster Alison Parker and cameraman Adam Ward were murdered and Vicki Gardner, executive director of the Smith Mountain Lake Regional Chamber of Commerce, was injured when shot during a live telecast from a mall in Roanoke, Va. violence
The gunman, who would subsequently kill himself, video-recorded and transmitted his sadistic act for millions to see worldwide. The gunman, who had a history of angry outbursts and paranoid behavior, had purchased his weapon legally soon after the murders of nine church members in Charleston, S.C., in June. The Virginia gunman had neither police record nor history of psychiatric evaluation or treatment.
The publicity of the crime raises the risk of copycat killers who may seek similar notoriety, which is what the gunman in Virginia seemingly was seeking because he immediately posted his video of the killings on the Internet and faxed a 23-page manifesto to ABC News, detailing why he did it. On the international scene, ISIS executioners have repeatedly used televised murders to raise their profile.
Families and friends of the murder victims are scarred for life; the rest of us will experience shock and grief for an interval and then move on. A debate on limiting access to guns may be renewed but will be unlikely to alter national patterns of gun violence.
The Constitution of the United States includes 27 amendments; we designate the first 10 as our Bill of Rights. The Second Amendment states, "A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed."
Any discussion of limiting access to firearms always triggers an angry recoil by groups and individuals who cite the Second Amendment as sacrosanct.
Until Congress and state legislators engage in serious discussion of reducing gun violence, let us consider a 28th amendment to the Constitution: "The right of Americans to go about their lives in peace without fear of victimization by gun violence shall not be abridged."
When a mass murder occurs, legislators typically call for restricting access to guns by people with criminal records or a history of psychiatric illness. But gun shows, with their absence of background checks, are a ready source of weapons for both groups.
Medical records are guarded by strict regulations of confidentiality. These would have to be rewritten if persons with serious mental illness are to be tagged in publicly available databases. Many individuals with serious mental illness or drug-driven violent behavior never come to the attention of mental-health professionals.
While accounting for 5 percent of the world's population, Americans own 35 percent of the world's guns. Yemen is in second place. The U.S. leads the world in homicides by firearms. In the U.S. in 2012, there were 29.7 homicides by firearms per 1 million residents. Switzerland was in second place with 7.7; Canada's rate was 5.1.
The overwhelming majority of American gun owners are responsible people who enjoy hunting, skeet shooting and other target sports. These gun owners secure their weapons, teach gun safety to their children and would never consider firing at another person except in response to a home invasion or other violent threat.
It is this group of gun owners who can lead a nationwide dialog on firearms. They can pose questions and facilitate open, threat-free discussion:
* Should all gun purchases require a waiting period for a detailed background check?
* Are certain firearms, such as assault weapons and guns with expanded magazines, inappropriate for private ownership?
* What would an adequately funded, public mental health system look like?
* How can confidentiality of medical records be balanced with a need to identify potentially violent offenders?
* Can state and local governments declare gun-free zones, such as parks, malls and other public spaces?
Until the epidemic of gun violence is curtailed, ratification of the 28th Amendment should proceed.
Contact Clif Cleaveland at cleaveland1000@comcast.net.In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. George Orwell
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September 2nd, 2015, 09:57 AM #2Member
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Re: 28th amendment to the Constitution- Right to be Free from gun violence ?
remember the eighteenth amendment....it led to the twenty-first after a several years of heightened crime
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September 2nd, 2015, 01:34 PM #3
Re: 28th amendment to the Constitution- Right to be Free from gun violence ?
Expanded magazines? They won't slip into the mag well, and they don't feed properly. I send those back for warranty replacement.
Are the folks murdered in the 110 countries ahead of us in murder per capita any less dead???"...a REPUBLIC, if you can keep it."
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September 2nd, 2015, 01:49 PM #4
Re: 28th amendment to the Constitution- Right to be Free from gun violence ?
And who made Clif Cleaveland the arbitor to decide what our rights are? Is he a constitutional lawyer? Did he read the debates that structured our constitutional rights?
Of course not. His myopial view with it's unintended consequences underscores his ignorance.
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September 2nd, 2015, 06:07 PM #5Grand Member
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Re: 28th amendment to the Constitution- Right to be Free from gun violence ?
More libtardism.
They keep ranting and raving about normal magazine capacity and gun shows but how many firearms crimes originate using such guns and magazines? Very few statistically.
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September 2nd, 2015, 06:14 PM #6
Re: 28th amendment to the Constitution- Right to be Free from gun violence ?
Cliff has the right to suck the fattest part of ungawa's ass.
Rules are written in the stone,
Break the rules and you get no bones,
all you get is ridicule, laughter,
and a trip to the house of pain.
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September 2nd, 2015, 06:19 PM #7
Re: 28th amendment to the Constitution- Right to be Free from gun violence ?
He may be onto something there... pass laws making all crimes illegal. All crime will end, we can then reduce or eliminate police departments, won't have to carry all those damned keys, buy those expensive area-robbing safes, or hover over the kids at school bus stops. What a great idea. The great positiveresults would take volumes of books to list it all.
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September 2nd, 2015, 07:48 PM #8
Re: 28th amendment to the Constitution- Right to be Free from gun violence ?
Being a gun owner I will take the time to engage in his dialog as he suggests
* Should all gun purchases require a waiting period for a detailed background check? No.
* Are certain firearms, such as assault weapons and guns with expanded magazines, inappropriate for private ownership? No.
* What would an adequately funded, public mental health system look like? People like you wouldn't be allowed to express their opinions in public
* How can confidentiality of medical records be balanced with a need to identify potentially violent offenders? It can't, if you are going to make certain medical issues prohibit firearm ownership you will need to disclose a history of those issues to firearms dealers
* Can state and local governments declare gun-free zones, such as parks, malls and other public spaces? Sure, in the same way they can declare those places to be protected leprechaun and unicorn habitat. All three will be equally effecting in accomplishing their goal.
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September 3rd, 2015, 06:50 AM #9Senior Member
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Re: 28th amendment to the Constitution- Right to be Free from gun violence ?
Ohhh, scary gunshows, no background checks!!!!!!!!!
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September 3rd, 2015, 07:04 AM #10Grand Member
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Re: 28th amendment to the Constitution- Right to be Free from gun violence ?
I've always been dismayed by politicians' desire to carve things into separate issues as a solution to problems. Our current crop of politicized potato slices are gun violence vs. violence, one group's lives matter vs. all lives matter, one economic group vs. the economy as a whole, etc. When in discussion/argument with proponents of "anti gun violence" measures, I try to point out that the kind of violence they are trying to control with the ineffective methods that they propose would likely happen anyway. Crazed killers want body count, generally thinking to kill themselves with 'the enemy' and will find other tools - maybe worse ones. As far as violence vs. gun violence, I doubt that a victim lying in the street trying to staunch the bleeding from terminal knife wounds is going to die thinking, "I'm dying in agony, but thank the Lord I wasn't shot."
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