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September 11th, 2018, 11:27 AM #91Junior Member
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Re: PSA: Please read if you own a Winchester Safe . . .
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September 11th, 2018, 12:36 PM #92Junior Member
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September 11th, 2018, 12:58 PM #93
Re: PSA: Please read if you own a Winchester Safe . . .
According to the Q&A on the Winchester product by TSC, the lock is non-standard. They address this multiple times.
- "No, the lock that is on the safe Is the only one that will fit on the safe."
- "No, the lock that the TS-19 has is the only lock that will fit that safe."
- "It does not have a standard footprint and can only function with the lock it comes with." (lock footprint)
- "No, because the footprint is not standard, and can only function with the lock it comes with."
- "No, the only lock that can be on that safe is the one that it comes with." (twice)
- "The answer is The TS-19-11 has a TS-8 keypad which is only used by Tractor Supply."
- "If you are referring to the TS-19, no it does not come with an S&G lock and it cannot be converted to a dial."
All of those answers were provided within the past year....for the TS-19-11 safe. Maybe the answers are different for other Winchester safes, as clearly aspects of the TS-19-11 were specified by TSC (I don't recall which Winchester safe you have).
It seems pretty clear that even if you CAN replace the lock with something else - it's not intended to be the case with TSC Winchester safes. Personally, that little bit of uncertainty in the back of my head as to whether I will be able to get into my safe when I want to is not worth any potential cost savings over something more reliable.Last edited by free; September 11th, 2018 at 01:03 PM.
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September 11th, 2018, 01:10 PM #94
Re: PSA: Please read if you own a Winchester Safe . . .
Just as a point of comparison...I bought a used coin safe from a bank. The cabinet is about 5’ long by 2’ deep by 30” tall. The removable doors ALONE Weigh a combined 320 pounds. That’s just the doors! Each of the two doors is maybe 15” wide by 24” tall at most.
How much steel can there be in that big ass Winchester safe that weighs less than 400 pounds?
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September 11th, 2018, 03:07 PM #95Junior Member
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Re: PSA: Please read if you own a Winchester Safe . . .
Being the FNG I don't want to step on any toes but Bionicman seems to think otherwise.. Also as a long time machinist, can't doesn't exist. It might be impossible for the average joe but I don't even consider it a challenge..I just need to take the inner panel off and check it out. I have a year to play with it...I'm naturally lazy so was hoping someone had covered the same ground.
Thanks for your input...
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September 11th, 2018, 07:38 PM #96
Re: PSA: Please read if you own a Winchester Safe . . .
Like I said, I haven't physically disassembled the 2018 MY, and it does have a different keypad from previous versions, but I very sincerely doubt that Winchester used a unique mounting pattern that's different from all of their other safes and dozens of other manufacturers for the keypad on just the TS series. That would be a financially stupid and just dick thing to do. The company's responses are likely just to deter people from modifying their products.
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September 12th, 2018, 11:38 AM #97Junior Member
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Re: PSA: Please read if you own a Winchester Safe . . .
I wholeheartedly agree..To say they were disingenuous would be kind. There are reviews on Amazon where people have installed the S&G 6730..For TSC to totally change the mounting footprint on lock and keypad would be exactly as you said..I could build my own safe but this will do just fine for what its intended to protect..Actually its really a good safe for the money...
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September 12th, 2018, 04:28 PM #98
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September 13th, 2018, 11:58 AM #99Junior Member
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Re: PSA: Please read if you own a Winchester Safe . . .
Finally made contact with S&G tech. Said I should have no problem installing a 6730..
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November 10th, 2018, 01:52 AM #100Junior Member
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Re: PSA: Please read if you own a Winchester Safe . . .
New here but I have basically the same problem. I forgot my combo. Ya stupid me, lol. I found this on youtube. A great video showing replacement of electronic to dial lock. BTW, He is doing it on a Winchester Safe. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HC7i815Dde8
I have 2 of these safes. 1 I bought new at Tractor Supply and the other I got off of craigslist for $250. Both are the 24 gun Winchesters. I can use my good safe to open and look at the mechanicals of the door locking mechanism.Last edited by goodwinm; November 10th, 2018 at 01:56 AM.
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