Stock up on M855, it may be a memory

[gizzymo]

Guess pretty soon I'll be seeing them in a Ziploc baggies priced @ $25.00 per 10 rnds in the gun shows.....next to the Gutter Guard Guy...and fudge girl...

[arjohnson]

Brits call it SS109. Same stuff , but no green tips. Brits never adopted the M193 so there was no need to differentiate or mark it. They didn't issue any other 5.56 round.



Years ago , there was some Bosnian/Igman SS109 that had black tips. Good stuff. Was going for $100/1000rds in bulk.

Black tips are tungsten core, green tips are steel.

[IronButt]

I have an ammo can of 855 green tip I've been keeping for shtf that I never opened, plus 2k of the 62gr steel core & 1k of 55gr 193 projectiles that I got from Wideners about a year ago.

I'm not counting at least 1k each of 55, 62 & maybe 500 77 gr I have loaded already & in cans.

I should be good for a couple months.

[ungawa]

The quickest way to make people want/buy something , is to tell them they can't have it , or won't be able to get it.

M855 is being phased out anyway , in favor of M855A1. So it naturally means that if Federal/ATK/Lake City isn't cranking out vast quantities anymore , it won't be available in vast quantities anymore.

M193 55gr is actually more accurate in my rifles , and , as they found out over in Sandland , more effective on unarmored people than M855 , especially up close and out of shorter barrels. The 62gr bullet has a tendency to bore straight thru , while the 55gr M193 takes a much more indirect course thru a torso.

I really don't care about helmet penetration at 300yds.

There is no point to M855. M193 penetrates more steel out to 200 yards if that's what you want, and it has more effective terminal ballistics.

Nothing about M855 is AP. It just does one thing that M193 doesn't. Possess the proper yaw to go through a thin metal sheet at 500 meters when fired out of a SAW.

And, no, you guys didn't just buy or just try to buy M855. Unless it was made before Clinton banned the sale of surplus US ammo back in the 1990s. What you bought was XM855.

And, no, it's not the same as SS109, either. M855 is a US Military standard.

[IronButt]

These fucks should not have the power to ban something just because, who's to say what's next.

Alcohol, Tobacco & Firearms should be the name of a convenience store chain. Not a government agency.

[arjohnson]

There is no point to M855. M193 penetrates more steel out to 200 yards if that's what you want, and it has more effective terminal ballistics.

Nothing about M855 is AP. It just does one thing that M193 doesn't. Possess the proper yaw to go through a thin metal sheet at 500 meters when fired out of a SAW.

And, no, you guys didn't just buy or just try to buy M855. Unless it was made before Clinton banned the sale of surplus US ammo back in the 1990s. What you bought was XM855.

And, no, it's not the same as SS109, either. M855 is a US Military standard.

Regardless and that's not the point, the problem is they can ban whatever then want, whenever they want.

Is M193 next?

[ungawa]

Black tips are tungsten core, green tips are steel.

That isn't even the beginning of the difference. The steel in M855 is not AP. It has a flat front, not pointed. It is not hardened to steel AP standards. It penetrates less steel than M193 out to 200 yards. You won't say any of those things about 5.56 AP (M955).

The purpose of the FLAT steel insert in M855 is to cheaply make the bullet longer and only slightly more heavy so it has the proper momentum and yaw to pass through a steel sheet at 500 (?) meters.

[ungawa]

Regardless and that's not the point, the problem is they can ban whatever then want, whenever they want.

Is M193 next?

If M855 is AP, then a dozen commercially available rounds are more AP.

Based on performance, not necessarily composition.

[dkf]

Another article

https://www.nraila.org/articles/2015...mon-ar-15-ammo

[strokelessone]

EmptyMag...PM me when you have some extra funds, and I will sell you some for the current pricing, not the gouged price it will soon be.