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February 13th, 2015, 11:33 AM #1Senior Member
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Senate bill would allow concealed carry nationwide.
Texas Republican John Cornyn recently introduced "The Constitutional Concealed Carry Reciprocity Act." This act would reduce the need to avoid states like New Jersey, Maryland, New York, etc. It would also more than likely result in a reduction of crime in those states that formerly had prevented law abiding citizens from defending themselves.
A similar bill came three votes short of passage with democrats controlling the Senate.
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February 13th, 2015, 11:46 AM #2
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February 13th, 2015, 12:03 PM #3Grand Member
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Re: Senate bill would allow concealed carry nationwide.
Still don't like it.
I don't trust any of those assholes.
Even if it got signed or a veto got overridden, I can see the first time some dumb ass gets into trouble the law getting changed to add training, or who knows what.
No to mention it's fantasy unicorn territory to think states like NJ, NY, etc, etc, wouldn't keep it tied up in court for a decade, only to end up in front of scotus.
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Not to mention you will still have to follow the states laws, which is a nightmare at the moment, wait until they get backed into a corner with something like nationwide carry.
IMO a smarter place to begin would be fixing FOPA and this interstate, what's interstate, transport BS.Last edited by God's Country; February 13th, 2015 at 12:14 PM.
FUCK BIDEN
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February 13th, 2015, 04:47 PM #4Senior Member
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Re: Senate bill would allow concealed carry nationwide.
Obama's veto can be overridden with sixty seven votes in the Senate.
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February 18th, 2015, 09:43 PM #5
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Be interesting to see how it would be handled in the House. Personally i doubt it would make it out of the Senate either due to the number of Liberal Republicans.
We can only hope though.Tu ne cede malis, sed contra audentior ito.
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February 19th, 2015, 09:00 AM #6
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The gun rights 'movement' has been enormously successful in the last decade. I believe it will pass both the house and senate. I also believe it will have enough votes to avoid a veto, or they can attach it to a bill that the POTUS must sign.
I read an article wherein Chuck Shumer (D, NY) said he will fight this 'tooth and nail'. Maybe back in the 80's and early 90's his mindset had some national force, where gun control was a winner. Now, the rest of the country is in a VERY different state. NY, NJ, MD are now the tiny minority anti-gun feifdoms in a HUGE sea of a nation generally in favor of lawful carry.
I think that NJ, NY, MD will soon be eating their hats. They may try to take it to SCOTUS, and in the meantime, the law will stand. And Alan Gura, the main litigator who won us McDonald and Heller, will likely be involved. When NJ's concealed carry suit made it's way to the SCOTUS, NJ attorney general was literally BEGGING SCOTUS not to hear the case, and Gura had every reason to believe it was his case to lose.
NJ, NY, MD will need to get with the times, sooner or later. IF/when national carry happens, NJ and NY and MD residents will have their eyes opened when they see/know that out of staters are carrying guns in their midsts, and the residents can't even get their own state permits to carry. Very soon they will see the folly in their original anti-gun attitudes, and lobby for their own carry rights.
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February 19th, 2015, 11:03 AM #7
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Originally Posted by Action Jackson
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Originally Posted by American1776
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February 19th, 2015, 11:27 AM #8
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Even if this passes and does get pass a veto by Obuma the states will make it impossible to carry. For instance PRNJ will just mandate no HP and that any handgun carried be a "smart gun". This will not effect any current carrier since there is so few. They will have an exemptions for LEO and bonded carriers just like now.
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February 19th, 2015, 11:51 AM #9Member
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Re: Senate bill would allow concealed carry nationwide.
Originally Posted by American1776;
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February 19th, 2015, 12:44 PM #10
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National Handgun Reciprocity
End Gun Free Zones
Fast & Furious show us the documents
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