Convert PA Non-Resident CCW to Resident?

[God's Country]

Why is that a problem?

PA doesn't issue a "non-resident" license. It's the same license regardless of where the licensee resides.

We're talking Philly here. They don't even want to know the law. They don't care. We've seen it over and over again.
I'm not going to assume anything and tell someone pfft no problem, then have them get jacked up over something that in all likelihood will end in their favor, but not after a lot of $ being spent.

[BimmerJon]

I just called the PHL Police Department Gun Unit and got an automated message that all I have to do is go there with my permit and PA DL. They will update the address in the database. The message said that I do not need to have the address updated on the permit, but if I want to do that, I should bring $25. for a replacement permit. Wow, not nearly as horrible as I expected. Thanks for your input, guys.

If the reality turns out to be different from what the phone message says, I will let you know.

It's 20$. If they charge you a penny more, they are breaking state law... Again... They never learn.

They WILL REVOKE your permit and you'll need to reapply again for it
Better to tell them you lost the card so they can't steal it from you

[ungawa]

The problem is the op is no longer a non res. Although technically I agree the ltcf is still valid this is Philly, and I could see the ltcf getting revoked at a minimum if the OP ever needs to produce it. Then who knows where it will go from there.

Not an easy situation......unfortunately.

I think only the issuing authority (Delco Sheriff) can revoke it.

[Gun]

(i) Revocation.--A license to carry firearms may be revoked by the issuing authority for good cause. A license to carry firearms shall be revoked by the issuing authority for any reason stated in subsection (e)(1) which occurs during the term of the permit.

(e) Issuance of license.--
(1) <snipped>
A license shall not be issued to any of the following:
(i) An individual whose character and reputation is such that the individual would be likely to act in a manner dangerous to public safety.
(ii) An individual who has been convicted of an offense under the act of April 14, 1972 (P.L. 233, No. 64), known as The Controlled Substance, Drug, Device and Cosmetic Act. [FN1]
(iii) An individual convicted of a crime enumerated in section 6105.
(iv) An individual who, within the past ten years, has been adjudicated delinquent for a crime enumerated in section 6105 or for an offense under The Controlled Substance, Drug, Device and Cosmetic Act.
(v) An individual who is not of sound mind or who has ever been committed to a mental institution.
(vi) An individual who is addicted to or is an unlawful user of marijuana or a stimulant, depressant or narcotic drug.
(vii) An individual who is a habitual drunkard.
(viii) An individual who is charged with or has been convicted of a crime punishable by imprisonment for a term exceeding one year except as provided for in section 6123 (relating to waiver of disability or pardons).
(ix) A resident of another state who does not possess a current license or permit or similar document to carry a firearm issued by that state if a license is provided for by the laws of that state, as published annually in the Federal Register by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms of the Department of the Treasury under 18 U.S.C. § 921(a)(19) (relating to definitions).
(x) An alien who is illegally in the United States.
(xi) An individual who has been discharged from the armed forces of the United States under dishonorable conditions.
(xii) An individual who is a fugitive from justice. This subparagraph does not apply to an individual whose fugitive status is based upon nonmoving or moving summary offense under Title 75 (relating to vehicles).
(xiii) An individual who is otherwise prohibited from possessing, using, manufacturing, controlling, purchasing, selling or transferring a firearm as provided by section 6105.
(xiv) An individual who is prohibited from possessing or acquiring a firearm under the statutes of the United States.

An LTCF cannot be revoked because someone wants to have an address changed on the LTCF, because under 6109, it is not mandatory to have the LTCF updated.

The only responsibility the licensee has, is to surrender the license if the licensee becomes ineligible to possess and handle firearms. IANAL.

[ungawa]

An LTCF cannot be revoked because someone wants to have an address changed on the LTCF, because under 6109, it is not mandatory to have the LTCF updated.

The only responsibility the licensee has, is to surrender the license if the licensee becomes ineligible to possess and handle firearms. IANAL.

It's certainly done anyway from the reports we have heard here on the forum.

[knight0334]

An LTCF cannot be revoked because someone wants to have an address changed on the LTCF, because under 6109, it is not mandatory to have the LTCF updated.

The only responsibility the licensee has, is to surrender the license if the licensee becomes ineligible to possess and handle firearms. IANAL.

There is no way to change the address on the actual license without issuing another. To issue another you must go through the licensing process again(pay $20, fill out the form, etc).

Most issuing agents will then require that the old license be revoked so that you don't have two of them - not that the law prohibits you from having multiple licenses.

I'm not sure why people get so bent on having their LTCF match their new residential address. The license is issued to YOU, not your address. The only thing that is wise to do is notify the issuing agent of your address change so they can send the renewal notice to the proper place. Until the law fixes the change of address thing, a person that absolutely needs his new address on his/her LTCF is only opening a can of worms that doesn't need to be opened.

[twency]

It's certainly done anyway from the reports we have heard here on the forum.

Gunlawyer001 has offered the opinion (see e.g.: http://forum.pafoa.org/concealed-car...ml#post2795132) that such is not a true revocation, since it doesn't meet any of the statutory prerequisites for revocation.

[Gun]

I'm not sure why people get so bent on having their LTCF match their new residential address. The license is issued to YOU, not your address. The only thing that is wise to do is notify the issuing agent of your address change so they can send the renewal notice to the proper place. Until the law fixes the change of address thing, a person that absolutely needs his new address on his/her LTCF is only opening a can of worms that doesn't need to be opened.

I've yet to receive a renewal notice from the sheriff's office. My notification comes from an alert on my dumb phone a week before the license expires.

[Sgt.K]

I've yet to receive a renewal notice from the sheriff's office. My notification comes from an alert on my dumb phone a week before the license expires.

I'm on my first license so I haven't renewed yet, but I figure this way:
LTCF = $20/5 years = $4/year = $1/quarter. If I renew 90 days out and get it same day ( ) I'm only "wasting" a dollar of coverage every 5 years. I know there's a grace period when it expires, but for a buck why risk it...

[BimmerJon]

Gunlawyer001 has offered the opinion (see e.g.: http://forum.pafoa.org/concealed-car...ml#post2795132) that such is not a true revocation, since it doesn't meet any of the statutory prerequisites for revocation.

Well....... In the computer system..... Its a revocation. Burden of explanation for the rest of your life is in you to explain it away.

Id prefer not to have the black mark personally