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    So I just woke up from a nap and had a thought and figured I'd ramble a bit on here...
    Every time a gun related crime is committed, anti gunners start endlessly blaming guns for the crime. Their biggest argument is that guns kill people, that guns cause crime.
    Then come the pro gunners, saying that guns don't cause crime, guns are inanimate objects that cannot take blame for something a human chose to do. The people kill people, the guns don't.
    Here's what i noticed... Gun advocates will take blame off of the gun, it cannot be blamed for bad. Then at the same time a large percentage of us preach that guns stop crime, guns save lives. We blame guns for the good.

    How can the same people that tell others that a gun cannot be blamed for crime then blame guns for stopping crime?

    Anyway, like I said, just a rambling thought of mine. I know there are some who do not fit this, but there are many who do.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jsaranczak View Post
    So I just woke up from a nap and had a thought and figured I'd ramble a bit on here...
    Every time a gun related crime is committed, anti gunners start endlessly blaming guns for the crime. Their biggest argument is that guns kill people, that guns cause crime.
    Then come the pro gunners, saying that guns don't cause crime, guns are inanimate objects that cannot take blame for something a human chose to do. The people kill people, the guns don't.
    Here's what i noticed... Gun advocates will take blame off of the gun, it cannot be blamed for bad. Then at the same time a large percentage of us preach that guns stop crime, guns save lives. We blame guns for the good.

    How can the same people that tell others that a gun cannot be blamed for crime then blame guns for stopping crime?

    Anyway, like I said, just a rambling thought of mine. I know there are some who do not fit this, but there are many who do.


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    Go finish your nap

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    Quote Originally Posted by AirportFF View Post
    Go finish your nap
    Haha but I have my best ideas after a nap

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    Blaming the gun for crime instead of the criminal is one thing. Upholding a natural right of a human being to USE a gun to protect himself, and family is another. The first demonizes the tool to keep it only from the law abiding, while the latter promotes a right, and the action of the citizen to protect themselves.

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    You got me thinking now..How about this.

    Guns help criminals commit crimes, but also used to help stop crimes. It is up to the person who has it to decide what to do with it.
    I need a better signature than this...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clyde1993 View Post
    You got me thinking now..How about this.

    Guns help criminals commit crimes, but also used to help stop crimes. It is up to the person who has it to decide what to do with it.
    Boy golly I think he's solved the riddle!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clyde1993 View Post
    You got me thinking now..How about this.

    Guns help criminals commit crimes, but also used to help stop crimes. It is up to the person who has it to decide what to do with it.
    I agree, this is the correct argument. I'm just saying that a lot of gun owners use a contradicting argument without even thinking.

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    Go back to sleep!!

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    If Obama's billion dollar executive action CDC anti-gun report of 2013 says guns save lives at least more often than they are used in crimes, then it's probably undeniable regardless of any philosophical concerns about the words in the expression.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ungawa View Post
    If Obama's billion dollar executive action CDC anti-gun report of 2013 says guns save lives at least more often than they are used in crimes, then it's probably undeniable regardless of any philosophical concerns about the words in the expression.
    His own FBI's data says the same thing.

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