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    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/philip..._b_110488.html

    "Right-wingers are screeching 'FLIP-FLOP!' while leftists are clutching their heads and preparing to vote for Ralph the Nadir. All because Obama is moving to the center. Makes you wonder when this country will grow up.

    Sure, I'll miss the old Obama, too. But he's not running against Hillary now. (Will the left subject him to the same sneering viciousness with which they attacked Hillary for doing the same thing? I doubt it somehow). He wants to get elected, not just get his ego stroked. Is his strategy correct? Probably.

    As to the flip-flop charge, it feels kind of empty after eight years of 'staying the course' and running the nation into the ground. Personally, I have no respect for anyone who doesn't 'flip-flop' occasionally. I want a president capable of changing his mind, correcting his course when it's headed for an iceberg, learning from mistakes, profiting from feedback. I've had enough of decisive stupidity, of rigidly refusing to respond to reality. I want somebody with flexibility, no matter how much it freaks out the authoritarian personalities in the media.

    I'm certainly not crazy about the shifts Obama has made -- I only hope they're tactical and not sincere. But let's face it, we have a two-party system, which forces all candidates toward the center. If we had a multi-party system we could all get exactly the candidates and positions we wanted, but they'd still be forced to compromise with their opponents in order to put together a cabinet. It all comes down to the same thing: it's democracy, which means the voice of everyone, not just the folks you agree with. For us it means including the voices of all those folks still living in the 17th century.

    The antipathy to gun control is particularly bothersome. The Supreme Court now says every American has the right to kill people, subject only to certain situational constraints. While Bush and Cheney never cease fear-mongering about terrorist attacks, we already have the equivalent of regular terrorist attacks from deranged gun owners flipping out on their co-workers, bosses, teachers, fellow students, exes, relatives, neighbors, and random strangers.

    The NRA keeps saying guns don't kill people, although not even the nuttiest of their fanatics could deny that the presence of guns multiplies deaths. The more guns you have in your house, the more you, some member of your family, or your kid's schoolmates are likely to bite the dust. Sure, people kill people. They do it with knives, pokers, rope, wire, etc. What distinguishes the gun from all these other murder weapons is that while these other implements have other uses, a gun has only a single function: to kill. And it's the most efficient way of doing it. That is, after all, why it was invented.

    Rifles are used to kill animals more often than people, and hunting with a rifle is considered a sport. While there isn't all that much skill involved in killing an animal with a high-powered rifle, a case could be made that ridding the nation of its deer and rabbit surplus is serving a useful function.

    But all handguns (not to mention grenades, automatic weapons, and other items often possessed by NRA nutcakes) are designed for only one purpose. To kill people. If you own a handgun it's because you want to be able to kill people at will.

    Especially yourself. Over half of all gun deaths are suicides. And guns do kill people it turns out, for suicide attempts with guns are 90% successful, compared with 34% for jumping off high places, and 2% for pills. A household with a suicide is 3 to 5 times more likely to have a gun in it.

    Gun control doesn't prevent anyone who feels realistically endangered from acquiring the means to kill. All you have to do is make a case and get a license. Unfortunately our nation has a large population of sexually insecure males who like to walk around pretending they're Dirty Harry, and a still larger population of acquisitive status-seekers, terrified someone will steal their future landfill.

    The reality is, you're more likely to get killed if you own a gun than if you don't, but maybe that's part of Nature's design."

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    Default Re: "Do you feel insecure? Well do you....punk?"

    all i can say is "moonbat!" after reading that spew...
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    Default Re: "Do you feel insecure? Well do you....punk?"

    Is it gunowners dying at such massive rates that has caused the departure from the 2A?

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    Default Re: "Do you feel insecure? Well do you....punk?"

    Quote Originally Posted by pex View Post
    Is it gunowners dying at such massive rates that has caused the departure from the 2A?
    yeah, youd think from that we would all just be offing ourselves and dying off at the range at such awesome rates they wouldnt need to worry about outlawing guns, only the anti's would survive.

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    Default Re: "Do you feel insecure? Well do you....punk?"

    I hope someone shanks him in a kidney with a dull knife.
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    Don't end up in my signature!

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    Default Re: "Do you feel insecure? Well do you....punk?"

    If you own a handgun it's because you want to be able to kill people at will.
    That's just pure journalistic goodness right there.

    Unfortunately our nation has a large population of sexually insecure males who like to walk around pretending they're Dirty Harry
    That tired old line again?
    You can never have enough horsepower or ammunition.

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    Default Re: "Do you feel insecure? Well do you....punk?"

    The antipathy to gun control is particularly bothersome. The Supreme Court now says every American has the right to kill people, subject only to certain situational constraints.
    Nonsense. The laws governing the use of deadly force are weapon-neutral, and were on the books of every state long before Heller. Under the laws of each state, citizens have the right to use deadly force under certain circumstances (with or without a firearm), and those circumstances haven't changed with Heller. I can't believe that the author is really unaware of this.
    Last edited by Philbert; July 8th, 2008 at 10:52 AM. Reason: Article was written by one of Huffington's associates

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    Default Re: "Do you feel insecure? Well do you....punk?"

    These whackos are everywhere and we as gunowners must be extremely vigilant or they will win in the long run. They are doing everything they can to brainwash our kids in schools, colleges etc. Articles like this are strictly fear mongering propaganda with absolutely no truth value whatsoever, they know it and they print this drivel anyway. There is a movement out there to take your freedoms away and it is on the LEFT.

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