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    Default Philly NewsRag: Not-So-Glorious Fourth

    any opinions on this piece from the philly inquirer?



    Chris Satullo: A not-so-glorious Fourth

    U.S. atrocities are unworthy of our heritage.

    By Chris Satullo
    Inquirer Columnist


    Put the fireworks in storage. Cancel the parade.
    Tuck the soaring speeches in a drawer for another time.
    This year, America doesn't deserve to celebrate its birthday. This Fourth of July should be a day of quiet and atonement.
    For we have sinned.
    We have failed to pay attention. We've settled for lame excuses. We've spit on the memory of those who did that brave, brave thing in Philadelphia 232 years ago.
    The America those men founded should never torture a prisoner.
    The America they founded should never imprison people for years without charge or hearing.
    The America they founded should never ship prisoners to foreign lands, knowing their new jailers might torture them.
    Such abuses once were committed by the arrogant crowns of Europe, spawning rebellion.
    Today, our nation does such things in the name of our safety. Petrified, unwilling to take the risks that love of liberty demands, we close our eyes.
    We have done such things, on orders from the Oval Office. We have done them, without general outrage or shame.
    Abu Ghraib. Guantanamo. CIA secret prisons. "Rendition" of prisoners to foreign torture chambers.
    It's not enough that we had good reason to be scared.
    The men huddled long ago in Philadelphia had better reason. A British fleet floated off the Jersey coast, full of hands eager to hang them from the nearest lampposts.
    Yet they pledged their lives and sacred honor - no idle vow - to defend the "inalienable rights" of men. Inalienable - what does that signify? It means rights that belong to each person, simply by virtue of being human. Rights that can never be taken away, no matter what evil a person might do or might intend.
    Surely one of those is the right not to be tortured. Surely that is a piece of "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness."
    This is the creed of July 4: No matter what it costs us, no matter how it scares us, no matter how foolish it seems to a cynical world, America should stand up for human rights.
    No, not even the brave men who picked up a quill, dipped it in ink and signed the parchment that summer day in Philadelphia lived up perfectly to the creed. But they did something extraordinary, founding a new nation upon a vow to oppose all the evil habits of tyranny.
    That is why history still honors them.
    But what will history think of us, of how we responded to our great challenge? Sept. 11 was a hideous evil, a grievous wound. Yet, truth told, it has not summoned our better angels as often as our worst.
    We have betrayed the July 4 creed. We trample the vows we make, hand to heart.
    Don't imagine that only the torturer's hand bears the guilt. The guilt reaches deep inside our Capitol, and beyond that - to us.
    Our silence is complicit. In our name, innocents were jailed, humans tortured, our Constitution mangled. And we said so little.
    We can't claim not to have known. The best among us raised the alarm. Heroes in uniform, judges in robes, they opposed the perverse logic of an administration drenched in fear, drunk on power.
    But did we heed them? Hardly. Barely . . .
    We were so busy. Soccer practice at 6. A credit card balance to fret. The final vote on Idol.
    We left it to those in power to keep our precious selves from harm. Whatever it took.
    We took the coward's way.
    The world sees this, even if we are too dim to grasp it. We've lost respect. We've shamed the memory of Jefferson, Adams and Franklin.
    And all for a scam. The waterboarding, the snarling dogs, the theft of sleep - all the diabolical tricks haven't made us safer. They may have averted this plot or that. But they've spawned new enemies by the thousands, made the jihadist rants ring true to so many ears.
    So put out no flags.
    Sing no patriotic hymns.
    We deserve no Fourth this year.
    Let us atone, in quiet and humility. Let us spend the day truly studying the example of our Founders. May we earn a new birth of courage before our nation's birthday next rolls around.
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    Default Re: Philly NewsRag: Not-So-Glorious Fourth

    Yet they pledged their lives and sacred honor - no idle vow - to defend the "inalienable rights" of men. Inalienable - what does that signify? It means rights that belong to each person, simply by virtue of being human. Rights that can never be taken away, no matter what evil a person might do or might intend.
    Its unalienable rights NOT inalienable - Why do so many misquote this word in the Declaration of Independence?



    This is from the online version, I will have to check it with my 1970's reprinted version of 1828 Webster Dictionary, because sometime the online version changes or omits meanings or words


    Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary (1913 + 1828)
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    Inalienable (Page: 741)
    In*al"ien*a*ble (?), a. [Pref. in- not + alienable: cf. F. inaliénable.] Incapable of being alienated, surrendered, or transferred to another; not alienable; as, in inalienable birthright.


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    INA''LIENABLE, a. [L. alieno, alienus.]

    Unalienable; that cannot be legally or justly alienated or transferred to another. The dominions of a king are inalienable. All men have certain natural rights which are inalienable. The estate of a minor is inalienable, without a reservation of the right of redemption, or the authority of the legislature.

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    Unalienable (Page: 1565)
    Un*al"ien*a*ble (?), a. Inalienable; as, unalienable rights. Swift. -- Un*al"ien*a*bly, adv.


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    UNA''LIENABLE, a. Not alienable; that cannot be alienated; that may not be transferred; as unalienable rights.

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    Default Re: Philly NewsRag: Not-So-Glorious Fourth

    Quote Originally Posted by rev214 View Post
    any opinions on this piece from the philly inquirer?
    Yeah, this idiots frustration seems to be very misdirected.

    If your going to be soured over what we have become as a country, at least make it something to be sour about...
    The "illegal" (by whose definition) detainment of people that want to KILL US? Wrong reasoning.
    How about the real problems that separate us from those later years in the 1700's.

    Another myrmidon of the looney left.
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    And he sleeps well, at night, in the greatest country on Earth - because of the freedom he has that blood has been shed for.

    He can go to hell.

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    Default Re: Philly NewsRag: Not-So-Glorious Fourth

    maybe the moonbat should read some of John Adams:

    “It [Independence Day] ought to be commemorated as the Day of Deliverance by solemn Acts of Devotion to God Almighty. It ought to be solemnized with Pomp and Parade, with Shews, Games, Sports, guns, Bells, Bonfires and Illuminations from one End of this Continent to the other from this Time forward forever more. You will think me transported with Enthusiasm but I am not. I am well aware of the Toil and Blood and Treasure, that it will cost Us to maintain this Declaration, and support and defend these States. Yet through all the Gloom I can see the Rays of ravishing Light and Glory. I can see that the End is more than worth all the Means. And that Posterity will tryumph in that Day’s Transaction, even altho We should rue it, which I trust in God We shall not.”

    John Adams to his wife, Abigail, on July 3, 1776, as the Declaration of Independence had just been approved.
    Like the "guns" idea Mr. Adams suggests.
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    Default Re: Philly NewsRag: Not-So-Glorious Fourth

    Quote Originally Posted by rev214 View Post
    maybe the moonbat should read some of John Adams:



    “It [Independence Day] ought to be commemorated as the Day of Deliverance by solemn Acts of Devotion to God Almighty. It ought to be solemnized with Pomp and Parade, with Shews, Games, Sports, guns, Bells, Bonfires and Illuminations from one End of this Continent to the other from this Time forward forever more. You will think me transported with Enthusiasm but I am not. I am well aware of the Toil and Blood and Treasure, that it will cost Us to maintain this Declaration, and support and defend these States. Yet through all the Gloom I can see the Rays of ravishing Light and Glory. I can see that the End is more than worth all the Means. And that Posterity will tryumph in that Day’s Transaction, even altho We should rue it, which I trust in God We shall not.”

    John Adams to his wife, Abigail, on July 3, 1776, as the Declaration of Independence had just been approved.
    Like the "guns" idea Mr. Adams suggests.
    Love the reference. Adams never thought himself an accomplished writer, but I believe this passage proves him wrong. The eloquence and emotion with which he writes is inspiring.
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    Default Re: Philly NewsRag: Not-So-Glorious Fourth

    Chris Satullo is a assclown.
    troll Free. It's all in your mind.

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    Default Re: Philly NewsRag: Not-So-Glorious Fourth

    Quote Originally Posted by ChamberedRound View Post
    Love the reference. Adams never thought himself an accomplished writer, but I believe this passage proves him wrong. The eloquence and emotion with which he writes is inspiring.
    here's a good link at Founding.com to a "modern english" version of the letter (the 2nd letter on the web page)...always an interesting story that July 2nd was to be in Adams' estimation the "memorable epocha in the history of America."

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