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    I applied for my Ltcw they told me 2 weeks and I will hear something second week I call they said I was aprroved and they just put it in the mail waited all week for my card to come in the mail there was nothing called again and she said I was denied. That's comeing from my butler country sheriffs office she said I should be getting the challenge and all that but that's been a week ago and it's getting close to the 30 day challenge so basically was wanting to see if someone could tell me how I could get ahold of pic to figure out what's going on or if someone could tell me what I should do

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    Sadly I don't think there is a lot you can do until you get the denial letter and have a chance to read it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Remington788 View Post
    Sadly I don't think there is a lot you can do until you get the denial letter and have a chance to read it.
    Simle fact. To appeal decision you have to know the reason for the decision. Then you have to show that the alleged facts that led to the decision are incorrect or that the decision falls outside of the parameters of the law.

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    Butler denied?

    That has to be a first!

    I got mine in 10 minutes, and that was only because I talked about the "Got milk" poster on the wall for 5 minutes..

    Mind you that was 4 years ago..
    Skeet is a sport where you are better to hit half of each bird then completely blast one and miss the other completely.

    The choice is yours, place your faith in the court system and 12 of your peers, or carried away by 6 friends.

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    Maybe go to the Sheriffs office on Monday and inquire in person?

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    Yeah I could do that but it's been about 2 weeks since I called the shiriffs office and they said it was denied my worrie is its almost been the 30 day mark to challenge it I'm just worried I am going to run out of time

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rickhockenberry View Post
    Yeah I could do that but it's been about 2 weeks since I called the shiriffs office and they said it was denied my worrie is its almost been the 30 day mark to challenge it I'm just worried I am going to run out of time
    That's why you need to go down there, if the time is almost up, why are you willing to wait around for something that may not show up in the mail?

    Go down and ask them in person so you can get it resolved ASAP.

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    I understand that but last time I called the lady said that the state don't give her a reason why they just give her a yes or no she said they dont tell her why I failed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rickhockenberry View Post
    I understand that but last time I called the lady said that the state don't give her a reason why they just give her a yes or no she said they dont tell her why I failed.
    Ok, if the Sheriffs dept says you would be getting a challenge form, and you never did, it may be in your interest if you go down there and politely ask them where your form is.

    They will probably tell you again that they cannot tell you anything, but since you are standing there, they might be able to give you a contact number at the State Police where you can get answers.

    Calling on the phone could be anyone, also, it's easy to blow someone off on the phone.
    It's different in person.

    From here:
    http://www.psp.pa.gov/firearms-infor...em---PICS.aspx

    No personal information will be discussed by phone.
    Here is the form:
    http://www.psp.pa.gov/Documents/Publ...ge-10-2008.pdf

    Read it carefully, remember that by signing it, you are saying everything you put down is the truth.
    You do not want to lie on this form.

    SELF CERTIFICATION
    I hereby confirm that I have read ALL info
    rmation contained in the Pennsylvania Instant
    Check System Challenge, Form SP 4-197, carefully
    and I certify that none of the prohibitions
    which are listed within this form apply.
    I understand that if I knowingly make any false st
    atements herein, I am subject to penalties
    prescribed by law. This certification/acknowledgmen
    t is made subject to both the penalties of
    Section 4904 of the Crimes Code
    (18 Pa.C.S. § 4904, relating to unsworn falsification to
    authorities), a misdemeanor of the third degr
    ee, subject to not more than one year of
    imprisonment and/or a fine not
    exceeding $2,500; and the Uniform Firearms Act, which is a felony
    of the third degree, subject to not more than
    7 years imprisonment and/or
    a fine not exceeding
    $15,000.

    I don't know what else to tell you, other than to contact a lawyer if you are unsure how to proceed.

    I'm not a lawyer, I suggest you contact one or head down to the sheriffs office.

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    Probably just going to be the best thing to do that kinda what I was wanting but I didn't know if someone on here knew who to contact about it at the state police and just avoiding the sheriffs office because they just don't seem to help full but ill go in Monday just wish I hade why I was denied so I could take in the proof

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