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    Default Ken Krawchuk governor

    Ken Krawchuk is the 3rd party candidate running in the election. Does anyone know his gun views?

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    Default Re: Ken Krawchuk governor

    He is not on any of the sample ballots for Bucks County, the other parties were successful in keeping an alternative choice off.

    That being said to anyone on this forum, while I favor anyone's right to write-in a candidate, its surely a vote for Wolf.

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    Default Re: Ken Krawchuk governor

    Don't know his stance and don't care. A third party candidate (in this case a libertarian) has no chance in winning and is only going to take votes away from Corbett
    Socialism is for the people, not the socialists - Andrew Wilkow

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    Default Re: Ken Krawchuk governor

    Quote Originally Posted by wakefield724 View Post
    Ken Krawchuk is the 3rd party candidate running in the election. Does anyone know his gun views?
    And as with every "3rd party" candidate, a vote for the "3rd party" candidate is as good as a vote for the Democrat. Because almost every "3rd party" candidate predominantly attracts Republican votes, thus essentially turning the ticket into 2 Republicans splitting the Republican votes and a single Democrat getting all the Democrat votes - which makes is much easier for the Democrat to win.

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    Default Re: Ken Krawchuk governor

    Bad troll!!!

    Corbet = Good
    Wolf = Extremely Bad
    Anybody else = Wolf = Extremely bad and NO CHANCE

    This is not an election to be voting third party. There is too much on the line. The race is close enough that Corbet might win, and there is a world of peril between the election of Wolf vs. Corbett. They are not two sides of the same coin, one is on our side, that is Corbett.

    I'd love to have runoff elections but that is a different discussion.

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    Default Re: Ken Krawchuk governor

    I vote third party in most national elections because A) if the Libertarian party gets 5% of the vote, they get ballot rights in subsequent elections (a very practical concern), and B) national candidates don't differ that much (see: Obama v. McCain/Romney).

    In state elections, though, the philosophical differences are much stronger. Wolf and Corbett are very different, unlike McCain and Obama. Please, please -- vote for Corbett. He's been our friend on gun issues since day 1.
    Slaves don't own arms; free men do.

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    Default Re: Ken Krawchuk governor

    http://www.kenk.org/Governor.php?Lin...=Gun%20Control

    In Brief...

    When it comes to Gun Control:
    Gun control kills.
    The Pennsylvania Constitution mandates, "The right of the Citizen to bear arms for defense of themselves and the State shall not be questioned."
    Passing more gun control laws would not help. Criminals don't care about breaking a law.
    Facts show that supporting the right to keep and bear arms reduces crime and homicides.
    Handguns are a girl's best friend.
    Note: You can link to this page directly by using http://KenK.org/guns

    In Depth...

    This speech was delivered by Mr. Krawchuk to the Educational Testing Service Toastmasters.
    Gunning for a Solution

    "A well-regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."

    So says the infamous Second Amendment to the Constitution for the United States of America. But the same Constitution promises to "promote the general welfare" and "insure domestic tranquility".

    Do you think that the 193 million privately-owned firearms promote the general welfare and insure domestic tranquility?

    The Pennsylvania Constitution goes even further. Article I says, "The right of the Citizen to bear arms in defense of themselves and the State shall not be questioned." But it also says that "governments are founded... for the peace, safety, and happiness" of the people.

    Happiness? Three months ago, 12 students and a teacher were killed in Colorado. Does that make you happy?

    Safety? Almost 40,000 Americans were killed by firearms last year alone. Do you feel safe?

    Peace? The peace of the grave, perhaps.

    Welcome, fellow Toastmasters, to the saga of the War on Guns.

    It's a battle between the right to bear arms and the right to live your life; the battle between pro-gun versus pro-gun control, a battle between the "haves" and the "want-them-to-have nots".

    And it's an interesting battle, because as divided as people are about guns, there is one thing that both sides readily agree upon: the facts.

    It's surprising, but there is very little disagreement over the facts. People on both sides of the gun issue quote the same numbers: Guns are the seventh largest killer in the nation. There's a gun for every man, woman, and half the kids in the country, and thousands of those children were killed by firearms every year; it works out to one dead child, every two hours.

    Both sides readily agree that these are facts. So it's not so much the facts about guns where the disagreement comes in; it's how each group puts a certain emphasis on the facts; how they spin the facts, if you will.

    For example, in 1995 there were 185 fatal firearm accidents among children. Gun advocates point out that it's down by almost 2/3 from the high-water mark of the 1970's. But gun control advocates point out that it's ONE HUNDRED EIGHTY FIVE DEAD CHILDREN! 370 grieving parents.

    Do you see what I mean? Same facts, different spins

    Another example: Gun advocates prove that Americans use guns defensively 2.5 million times a year, preventing many more murders, rapes, and robberies than if they were unarmed.

    The gun control advocates agree, but counter that with a gun in the home, you're 3 times more likely to have a homicide, 5 times more likely to have a suicide, and a whopping 43 times more likely to kill a friend than to kill in self defense.

    All these numbers come from the same facts. Each side sat up late at night spinning their numbers in just the right way to promote their agendas. Each side claims they prove their numbers are right.

    What, then, should we do about guns?

    First, we must realize that there is no Utopia. Pandora's box is open. Guns are here to stay. We can't eliminate illegal drugs and guns in prison; so how can we expect to do it in a free society? The answer is: You can't.

    We must realize that more laws would not work. Criminals don't care about breaking a law. Did you know that the students in Littleton broke 19 different laws?. Do you think they cared? More laws would only impact law-abiding citizens -- because they abide by the law -- and not the criminals -- because they don't.

    So what, then, do we do about guns? The best programmer I ever met once told me a fundamental truth, useful not only in programming, but also useful in life. He said, "More important than solving the problem correctly is to solve the correct problem."

    So when it comes to guns, what's the problem that we're solving here?

    Do you know what problem I'd like to solve? 40,000 people die every year from firearms. THAT is the problem to be solved. To my mind, all our actions must be aimed at reducing the number of deaths as best we can.

    And who could disagree? I don't know about you, but I'm tired of hearing about dead children on the 6 o'clock news.

    So what can we do to reduce gun deaths? We need to look at the things that have already worked. What successes have there been in America recently?

    Without a doubt, the most astounding success, statistically speaking, is occurring in Florida. According to the FBI, over the ten years between 1987 and 1997 their handgun homicide rate dropped 41% while the rest of the nation's rose 24%; and it continues to drop today, 5% a year, while the rest of the nation's continues to rise. And before 1987, their rate had pretty much gone along with the rest of the country.

    How did Florida achieve this boon, you may ask? How did they reduce their handgun homicide rate to its lowest level since 1933? What did Florida do in 1987 that started their contrarian trend?

    They made it legal to carry a concealed handgun.

    Surprised? I was shocked; I couldn't believe it at first. But the statistics are there, plain as day. An armed society is a safer society, 41% safer. Some local communities have eliminated over 90 percent of gun deaths that way. But don't take my word for it; ask the FBI.

    Here's another shocker: Everyone knows that if a woman resist an attacker, she's twice as likely to be seriously injured. But John Lott at the University of Chicago did a county-level, nationwide study. He confirmed that common wisdom, but he also discovered that if a woman resisted with a handgun, she's half as likely to be seriously injured.

    The obvious conclusion to draw from Lott's study is that handguns are a girl's best friend.

    But we have to be careful when we rely only on statistics like these. Statistics can be very cold. So let's take a look at what happens in real situations with real people. Let's look at a few of the recent school shootings, for example.

    In Pearl Mississippi in 1997, 2 students were killed by a fellow student. But the vice principal ran out to his car for his gun, then held the killer at bay for 5 minutes until the police arrived. If he hadn't stepped forward, how many more people would have been killed in those 5 minutes?

    In 1998, a little closer to home in Edinboro Pennsylvania, only 1 student was killed because a neighboring merchant with a shotgun held the killer at bay for 11 minutes until the police arrived. How many more people could have been killed in those 11 minutes?

    This year, in Littleton Colorado, there was no one there to stop them. Thirteen were killed.

    Fellow Toastmasters, I cannot escape the truth.

    No matter where I look, the evidence is clear. No matter how you spin them, the facts are clear. No matter whether you look at statistics or individual disasters, the answer is clear.

    If the problem your solving is to save as many innocent lives as possible, there is one incontrovertible, inescapable conclusion: gun control kills.

    And if you disagree, if your goal is NOT to save as many innocent lives as possible, then I have to ask you: What problem are YOU solving?

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    Default Re: Ken Krawchuk governor

    I'm def voting for Corbett. I actually love PA and don't desire a change except in better gun laws. The only thing that I disagree with Corbett is his views of legalization of marihuana. I do not use it and don't hang out with ppl who use it but I do believe legalizing it will save a lot of money from effort fighting it and make jobs and increase the economy from distrubution. That issues comes after gun rights though so Corbett gets my vote.

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    Default Re: Ken Krawchuk governor

    Waste of vote, may as well just stay home or vote for the commie.

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    Default Re: Ken Krawchuk governor

    Quote Originally Posted by wakefield724 View Post
    I'm def voting for Corbett. I actually love PA and don't desire a change except in better gun laws. The only thing that I disagree with Corbett is his views of legalization of marihuana. I do not use it and don't hang out with ppl who use it but I do believe legalizing it will save a lot of money from effort fighting it and make jobs and increase the economy from distrubution. That issues comes after gun rights though so Corbett gets my vote.
    Agreed, and good to hear you're voting Corbett.

    On the plus side, he did support getting rid of the last vestige of prohibition in PA: the PLCB. He's not all bad on civil liberties, and is pretty great for a PA politician. He also chose not to continue fighting against the gay marriage rulings.

    I really like Corbett, honestly.
    Slaves don't own arms; free men do.

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