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June 27th, 2008, 05:18 PM #1
DER SPIEGEL on SC ruling
http://www.spiegel.de/international/...562464,00.html
Supreme Court Ruling - Lock and Load
The Supreme Court’s ruling on gun rights is a decision that will cause immeasurable pain and suffering and turn America into a more dangerous country.
Free for all: The gun lobby will trumpet the Supreme Court ruling as an end to virtually all gun restrictions.
Thirty-thousand Americans are killed by guns every year -- on the job, walking to school, at the shopping mall. The Supreme Court on Thursday all but ensured that even more Americans will die senselessly with its wrongheaded and dangerous ruling striking down key parts of the District of Columbia's gun-control law.
In a radical break from 70 years of Supreme Court precedent, Justice Antonin Scalia, writing for the majority, declared that the Second Amendment guarantees individuals the right to bear arms for nonmilitary uses, even though the amendment clearly links the right to service in a "militia." The ruling will give gun-rights advocates a powerful new legal tool to try to strike down gun-control laws across the nation.
This is a decision that will cost innocent lives, cause immeasurable pain and suffering and turn America into a more dangerous country. It will also diminish our standing in the world, sending yet another message that the United States values gun rights over human life.
There already is a national glut of firearms: estimates run between 193 million and 250 million guns. The harm they do is constantly on heartbreaking display. Thirty-three dead last year in the shootings at Virginia Tech. Six killed this year at Northern Illinois University.
On Wednesday, as the court was getting ready to release its decision, a worker in a Kentucky plastics plant shot his supervisor, four co-workers and himself to death.
This article has been provided by the New York Times as part of a special agreement between NYTimes.com. You can also find SPIEGEL stories at the New York Times on the Web. Cities and states have tried to stanch the killing with gun-control laws. The District of Columbia, which has one of the nation's highest crime rates, banned the possession of nearly all handguns and required that other firearms be stored unloaded and disassembled, or bound with a trigger lock.
Overturning that law, the court's 5-to-4 decision says that individuals have a constitutional right to keep guns in their homes for self-defense. But that's a sharp reversal for the court: as early as 1939, it made clear that the Second Amendment only protects the right of people to carry guns for military use in a militia.
In his dissent, Justice John Paul Stevens was right when he said that the court has now established "a new constitutional right" that creates a "dramatic upheaval in the law."
Even if there were a constitutional right to possess guns for nonmilitary uses, constitutional rights are not absolute. The First Amendment guarantees free speech, but that does not mean that laws cannot prohibit some spoken words, like threats to commit imminent violent acts. In his dissent, Justice Stephen Breyer argued soundly that whatever right gun owners have to unimpeded gun use is outweighed by the District of Columbia's "compelling" public-safety interests.
In this month's case recognizing the habeas corpus rights of the detainees at Guantánamo Bay, Cuba, Justice Scalia wrote in dissent that the decision "will almost certainly cause more Americans to be killed." Those words apply with far more force to his opinion in this District of Columbia case.
The gun lobby will now trumpet this ruling as an end to virtually all gun restrictions, anywhere, at all times. That must not happen. And today's decision still provides strong basis for saying it should not.
If the ruling is held to apply to the states, and not just to the District of Columbia -- which is not certain -- there will still be considerable dispute about what it means for other less-sweeping gun laws. Judges may end up deciding these on a law-by-law basis.
Supporters of gun control must fight in court to ensure that registration requirements and background-check rules, and laws against bulk sales of handguns -- a major source of guns used in crimes -- are all upheld.
The court left room for gun-control advocates to fight back. It made clear that there were gun restrictions that it was not calling into question, including bans on gun possession by felons and the mentally ill, or in "sensitive places" like schools and government buildings.
That last part is the final indignity of the decision: when the justices go to work at the Supreme Court, guns will still be banned. When most Americans show up at their own jobs, they will not have that protection.
This audaciously harmful decision, which hands the far right a victory it has sought for decades, is a powerful reminder of why voters need to have the Supreme Court firmly in mind when they vote for the president this fall.
Senator John McCain has said he would appoint justices like Chief Justice John Roberts and Justice Samuel Alito -- both of whom supported this decision. If the court is allowed to tip even further to the far right, there will be even more damage done to the rights and the safety of Americans.
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June 27th, 2008, 05:24 PM #2
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I love it !!!!
The anti's have their panty's all in a bunch !
It'll be nice to put them on the defensive.
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June 27th, 2008, 05:24 PM #3
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Typical liberal slant - looks like they just reworded the NY Times editorial. Glad I live in the USA where I have a right that predated the constitution......
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June 27th, 2008, 05:25 PM #4
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Gonna have to send them a letter, let them know I really don't give a fuck about how the Germans interpret our Constitution. After all, they are the people who freely elected Adolf Hitler into office and backed his gun control then.... not sure they are the ones to be lecturing folks on how good gun control is!!!
I'm not surprised, though, to find that the NY Times DOES support the ideological decendants of that man."Never give up, never surrender!" Commander Peter Quincy Taggart
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June 27th, 2008, 05:39 PM #5
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"Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty, or give me death! " - Patrick Henry
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June 27th, 2008, 06:05 PM #6
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I find it interesting that a country that wants to get away from the legacy of Hitler are such enthusiastic supporters of his #1 policy. "Germans who wish to use firearms should join the SS or the SA -- ordinary citizens don't need guns, as their having guns doesn't serve the state." -- Heinrich Himmler
Last edited by Yellowfin; June 27th, 2008 at 06:17 PM.
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June 27th, 2008, 11:02 PM #7
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June 27th, 2008, 11:10 PM #8
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I disagree with those opinions.
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To the editors at der speigel ............. "bite me".
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June 27th, 2008, 11:22 PM #10
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The stat I thought I read yesterday was 15,000 people killed by guns. Not 30,000. hmmm...
http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/cius2006/data/table_01.html
FBI says there were 17,034 "Murder and
nonnegligent manslaughter" deaths in 2006.Μολὼν λάβε
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