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  1. September 27th, 2014, 09:10 AM #1
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    I am a PA resident with a carry permit. I was reading an article about Shaneen Allen, that poor women who drove into NJ and told the cop she had a permit and was carrying and is now facing 4 years in prison. In the article, her lawyer said the reason she told the cop she was carrying was that, in PA, you are required to inform the police you are carrying when you are pulled over. Is that true? I thought PA was NOT a duty to inform state???
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  2. September 27th, 2014, 09:17 AM #2
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    PA is NOT a "duty to inform" state.

    Although, I believe, some PA sheriffs (and Philly PD) mistakenly inform LTCF holders that they do have to inform.
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  3. September 27th, 2014, 09:17 AM #3
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    Default Re: Right to Inform Question

    her lawyer is a moron. there is no duty to inform in PA
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  4. September 27th, 2014, 09:46 AM #4
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigdawgbeav View Post
    her lawyer is a moron. there is no duty to inform in PA
    Her lawyer is one of the best gun lawyers in the state of NJ. He is not as informed about PA gun laws. He was only stating what the Philly police stated in the booklet that Shaneen got.
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  5. September 27th, 2014, 09:46 AM #5
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    Default Re: Right to Inform Question

    Philly does/did tell people that they must inform.
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  6. September 27th, 2014, 09:52 AM #6
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    Default Re: Right to Inform Question

    Quote Originally Posted by thundrr1 View Post
    Philly does/did tell people that they must inform.(
    The flyer they hand out there with an LTCF has been posted here a couple of times. It clearly states that there is a duty to inform. I think it also says that you'll be arrested if a gun is stolen from your car. Both completely false, but if you get your legal advice from the PPD . . .
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  7. September 27th, 2014, 11:26 AM #7
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    Default Re: Right to Inform Question

    Lots of misinformation:

    Saw a report that said she had completed the required training for a PA carry license. Of course this is not required.

    Said her gun was legally registered. Technically not true as PA does have a sales registry but not actual registration.
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  8. September 27th, 2014, 12:25 PM #8
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    Quote Originally Posted by clarencecoffee View Post
    Said her gun was legally registered. Technically not true as PA does have a sales registry but not actual registration.
    Many people think that the 4473 is registration and that ATF keeps track of every gun.

    I read an article which stated the same thing about "required to inform" and dashed off a letter to the editor.
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  9. September 27th, 2014, 01:11 PM #9
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    Default Re: Right to Inform Question

    If the Philadelphia Police Department informed her, in writing, that she was obligated to inform, could she not sue the Philadelphia Police Department for erroneous legal advice? She certainly now has standing.
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  10. September 28th, 2014, 01:32 PM #10
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    Default Re: Right to Inform Question

    Quote Originally Posted by Statkowski View Post
    If the Philadelphia Police Department informed her, in writing, that she was obligated to inform, could she not sue the Philadelphia Police Department for erroneous legal advice? She certainly now has standing.
    That is a pretty interesting point you bring up.
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