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    Default Re: Boston PD Commissioner: Residents do not need shotguns or rifles

    BS. In a city like Boston where the 9/11 terrorists got their start that fateful day, in a city like Boston where good old Tsarnaev brothers got their start and executed their plot, in a city like Boston where gang members make murder a daily meal, in a city like Boston where the police shut the city down and drove tanks through the city and pointed long guns at civilians searching for the same Tsarnaev brothers, sure, who would need guns? Boston is the city of the Revolution - they're so quick now to forget their own history and how firearms in the hands of citizens were nearly taken away, at the expense of our now supposedly free nation.

    I DO agree with him that national or Federal laws should not trump local laws. But then again I'm an anti-Federalist. But he forgets, that the Bill of Rights is not Federal law: it's a list of the Rights that we already have as human beings, a list which happens to be stapled to a Federal founding document and happens to be housed in a Federal building in the Federal city. Still doesn't make the Second Amendment a Federal law. A city most definitely has the right and power to do things that are completely illegal in the Federal context: ask Denver if you can smoke pot there, then ask Washington; ask San Fransisco in 2000 if you can bang your boyfriend there, then ask Washington. If he wants guns banned in Massachusetts, he can form a party, and gather up some Craigslist free coupons, hand them out to voters, and then wait for the election. If he gets to be governor, he can enact anything he likes, and then fight the Feds over states' rights. It's been done over the pot and the gay issues, I'm sure eventually it will be done over guns. If he's got any balls, he'll do it. I call his bluff though.

    Finally, how many long guns and shot guns were USED in murders in the last 15 years? How many in Boston? He can't include, as he has, guns CONFISCATED at the scene of murders or at other crimes. He can ONLY include guns USED. If I run a guy over with my car, you can't include my other two cars and my truck as also having killed that guy. If he wants to operate a crusade that would bring RESULTS, it would be against hand guns, not long guns and shot guns. By DOJ stats, banning long guns and shot guns would at best take 1% of murders out, of course assuming those actors wouldn't use Fists or Motor Vehicles or Poison or Explosives, or of course the other available guns, hand guns, all of which account for many many more murders. If he REALLY wants to bring results, he'd get with his county DA and charge EVERY gang member with EVERY crime, then prosecute EVERY crime, and then start a political campaign to ensure every jury member CONVICTS EVERY TIME OF ALL CHARGES and sentences to the MAX. Keeping gang members in prison or hanging from a noose would prevent far far more crimes than banning guns. Remember, while banning guns sounds cute, murder has been banned for a very long time.

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    Default Re: Boston PD Commissioner: Residents do not need shotguns or rifles

    And where will the hunters store the rifles and shotguns after a hunting trip?

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    Default Re: Boston PD Commissioner: Residents do not need shotguns or rifles

    Maybe we need to drag the Ticonderoga cannons back and put them back in place in Dorchester Heights to drive the occupiers out of Boston again. It took just over two hundred years for the tyrants return. Good guys with guns is the only answer to tyrants.

    In a decisive stroke, as winter set in, Washington dispatched Henry Knox, a young Boston bookseller, to organize the transport of fifty-nine of these captured artillery pieces from the forts on Lake Champlain to the heights overlooking Boston, where, it was hoped, they would turn the tide against the British in the city below

    On March 17, 1776, George Washington stood on Dorchester Heights alongside fifty-nine captured cannon high above the city of Boston, Massachusetts, and watched as British troops peacefully evacuated the city after an eleven-month siege.
    https://www.nysm.nysed.gov/services/...kthistory.html
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    Default Re: Boston PD Commissioner: Residents do not need shotguns or rifles

    I love how, right after he gets done saying NOBODY in Boston needs a shotgun or rifle, he then says he ultimately wants to have "discretion" over who is allowed to have a shotgun or rifle.

    Do we need to guess which way his "discretion" will lean in each and every case?

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    Default Re: Boston PD Commissioner: Residents do not need shotguns or rifles

    Apparently Bostonian's everywhere are upset!!!


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    Default Somewhere in the near future........

    Quote Originally Posted by JenniferG View Post
    Maybe we need to drag the Ticonderoga cannons back and put them back in place in Dorchester Heights to drive the occupiers out of Boston again. It took just over two hundred years for the tyrants return. Good guys with guns is the only answer to tyrants.



    https://www.nysm.nysed.gov/services/...kthistory.html
    Alas; today, the burning thirst for freedom and justice, driven by the tyranny of an despotic monarch; which ignited a revolution; firing the shot heard around the world; has been replaced by the insatiable desire to find the best sales at the mall.

    Somewhere in the near future...... Henrietta Knox, current Senate Candidate for President Elizabeth Warren's vacated Senate seat; local book store owner, feminist and social justice advocate. While educated at Berkley; wrote her Masters thesis on The Illegitimacy of the American Revolution due to the theft of Crown property from Ft Ticonderoga. In this, she has explained that without the unlawful seizure of the fort and the cannon therein; the occupation of Boston by the British, would still be in effect today. Therefore reparations are due to descendants of any subject of the Crown, at that time.

    Her study has been peer reviewed and validated by such notables as; President Elizabeth Warren, former Vice-President Joe Biden, David Axelrod; current Secretary of Education and Political Indoctrination, Professor William Ayers and current Attorney General Chelsea Clinton.

    The Current Congress, thanks to the abolition of the racist voter ID laws; is 100% Democrat. Aided by House Speaker Rahm Emanuel and Senate Majority Leader Michele Obama; The Congress has authorized the borrowing of two Trillion dollars to pay these reparations. Concerns were raised about adding two Trillion dollars to the ever growing(97T) National Debt, the Federal Reserve Chairwoman Nancy Pelosi guaranteed Congress that this action would stimulate the economy.

    However, due to the difficulty of determining the eligibility for these reparations, anyone stating they are descendants of Crown Subjects will be accepted; by singing a notarized statement. For any additional requirements of eligibility, the Pigford reparations model will be used. Reparations will be managed by the Clinton and Clinton Law Firm LLC, based in Washington, D.C., with Home Offices in Little Rock Arkansas.
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    Default Re: Boston PD Commissioner: Residents do not need shotguns or rifles

    Getting harder and harder to be able to shoot both barrels into the air to scare them criminals away......
    Marty near God's Country. Making good people defenseless doesn’t make bad people harmless.

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    Default Re: Boston PD Commissioner: Residents do not need shotguns or rifles

    And to think, 12 miles from Boston, on April 19, 1775, CITIZENS with their own muskets gave their lives against the king's tyranny on Lexington Green and at Concord bridge.

    Oh how they are rolling in their graves at what their colony has become...

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    Default Re: Boston PD Commissioner: Residents do not need shotguns or rifles

    Quote Originally Posted by c&rlover View Post
    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Governm...hotguns-Rifles

    "On July 23, Boston Police Commissioner William Evans told Boston Public Radio (WGBH) that residents of Boston do not need shotguns or rifles.
    He said these things in response to Massachusetts state senator Stan Rosenberg's (D) position that there are already "sufficient controls" on long guns at the federal level and, therefore, no need for new state laws giving police additional powers to deny ownership to citizens.

    According to WGBH, Evans responded:

    I don't agree with that. Having long guns--rifles and shotguns--especially here in the city of Boston. I think we should have, as the local authority, some say in the matter. [And] the federal [government] doesn't really allow us to have the discretion that we want in these particular cases.
    ...For the most part, nobody in the city needs a shotgun. Nobody needs a rifle.
    Evans went on to restate his position that he ultimately wants to have "discretion" over who is allowed to have a shotgun or rifle."
    Any police official that openly refuses to respect and follow the Constitution needs to be removed from his position. This man has open disregard of the 2nd amendment, therefore he can not be trusted with following the constitution and should be removed as soon as possible.

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    Default Re: Boston PD Commissioner: Residents do not need shotguns or rifles

    When someone with authority, a badge, and a gun on their hip tells you you don't need a gun in "their territory" its a sure sign that you do.

    Sadly, having lived there for four years I can tell you all that the majority of good commonsense people have voted with their feet. That city is all but lost at this point.
    Sic semper tyrannis

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