Need advise

[njsportsman]

Now that the non res Utah permit has been taken off the table I cannot carry in PA anymore. I know Texas is the is an option but you must appear in person. I have no problem taking a road trip but, I think Kane will eventually get to Texas as well. I live in NJ for work reasons but, own property In the Pocono's. I am in PA every chance I get. I know I cannot get a non res PA because tecnically NJ offers a permit and unless your retired LE it's not happening so, what if anything can I do? Thanks

[S&WOwner]

Well, no one on the forum can't say you aren't persistent!

[njsportsman]

Well, no one on the forum can't say you aren't persistent!

What are you talking about I rarely post to this site? I never posted this before I just lost my Utah permit this year so I don't know what you mean.

[90volts]

Move.

[Grey Bearded One]

I would advise you to ask for advice.

[RBELARDI]

Why cant u get a non resident LTCF in PA ? I was at the Lackawanna County Court House 2 weeks ago and their were 5 peopkle in front of me getting non resident LTCF's from NJ . . . It takes a bit longer but u shouldt have an issue . . .

[ungawa]

Your Utah license covers you in a car, even though it does not afford you reciprocity.

You can open carry on foot.

Does not apply to Philadelphia or PA residents.

You may want to call your PA sheriff and see if he will issue you PA LTCF based on your PA residence,

Title 18

§6106. Firearms not to be carried without a license.

(a) Offense defined.--

* (1) Except as provided in paragraph (2), any person who carries a firearm in any vehicle or any person who carries a firearm concealed on or about his person, except in his place of abode or fixed place of business, without a valid and lawfully issued license under this chapter commits a felony of the third degree.
* (2) A person who is otherwise eligible to possess a [FN1] valid license under this chapter but carries a firearm in any vehicle or any person who carries a firearm concealed on or about his person, except in his place of abode or fixed place of business, without a valid and lawfully issued license and has not committed any other criminal violation commits a misdemeanor of the first degree.
*

* (b) Exceptions.--The provisions of subsection (a) shall not apply to:

* (1) Constables, sheriffs, prison or jail wardens, or their deputies, policemen of this Commonwealth or its political subdivisions, or other law-enforcement officers.
* (2) Members of the army, navy, marine corps, air force or coast guard of the United States or of the National Guard or organized reserves when on duty.
* (3) The regularly enrolled members of any organization duly organized to purchase or receive such firearms from the United States or from this Commonwealth.
* (4) Any persons engaged in target shooting with a firearm, if such persons are at or are going to or from their places of assembly or target practice and if, while going to or from their places of assembly or target practice, the firearm is not loaded.
* (5) Officers or employees of the United States duly authorized to carry a concealed firearm.
* (6) Agents, messengers and other employees of common carriers, banks, or business firms, whose duties require them to protect moneys, valuables and other property in the discharge of such duties.
* (7) Any person engaged in the business of manufacturing, repairing, or dealing in firearms, or the agent or representative of any such person, having in his possession, using or carrying a firearm in the usual or ordinary course of such business.
* (8) Any person while carrying a firearm which is not loaded and is in a secure wrapper from the place of purchase to his home or place of business, or to a place of repair, sale or appraisal or back to his home or place of business, or in moving from one place of abode or business to another or from his home to a vacation or recreational home or dwelling or back, or to recover stolen property under section 6111.1(b)(4) (relating to Pennsylvania State Police), or to a place of instruction intended to teach the safe handling, use or maintenance of firearms or back or to a location to which the person has been directed to relinquish firearms under 23 Pa.C.S. § 6108 (relating to relief) or back upon return of the relinquished firearm or to a licensed dealer's place of business for relinquishment pursuant to 23 Pa.C.S § 6108.2 (relating to relinquishment for consignment sale, lawful transfer or safekeeping) or back upon return of the relinquished firearm or to a location for safekeeping pursuant to 23 Pa.C.S. § 6108.3 (relating to relinquishment to third party for safekeeping) or back upon return of the relinquished firearm.
* (9) Persons licensed to hunt, take furbearers or fish in this Commonwealth, if such persons are actually hunting, taking furbearers or fishing as permitted by such license, or are going to the places where they desire to hunt, take furbearers or fish or returning from such places.
* (10) Persons training dogs, if such persons are actually training dogs during the regular training season.
* (11) Any person while carrying a firearm in any vehicle, which person possesses a valid and lawfully issued license for that firearm which has been issued under the laws of the United States or any other state.
* (12) A person who has a lawfully issued license to carry a firearm pursuant to section 6109 (relating to licenses) and that said license expired within six months prior to the date of arrest and that the individual is otherwise eligible for renewal of the license.
* (13) Any person who is otherwise eligible to possess a firearm under this chapter and who is operating a motor vehicle which is registered in the person's name or the name of a spouse or parent and which contains a firearm for which a valid license has been issued pursuant to section 6109 to the spouse or parent owning the firearm.
* (14) A person lawfully engaged in the interstate transportation of a firearm as defined under 18 U.S.C § 921(a)(3) (relating to definitions) in compliance with 18 U.S.C. § 926A (relating to interstate transportation of firearms).
* (15) Any person who possesses a valid and lawfully issued license or permit to carry a firearm which has been issued under the laws of another state, regardless of whether a reciprocity agreement exists between the Commonwealth and the state under section 6109(k), provided:
* (i) The state provides a reciprocal privilege for individuals licensed to carry firearms under section 6109.
* (ii) The Attorney General has determined that the firearm laws of the state are similar to the firearm laws of this Commonwealth.
* (16) Any person holding a license in accordance with section 6109(f)(3).

I am not a lawyer and this is not legal advice. You have to figure it out for yourself, but that is where I would start.

[njsportsman]

Your Utah license covers you in a car, even though it does not afford you reciprocity.

You can open carry on foot.

Does not apply to Philadelphia or PA residents.

You may want to call your PA sheriff and see if he will issue you PA LTCF based on your PA residence,



I am not a lawyer and this is not legal advice. You have to figure it out for yourself, but that is where I would start.

Thanks I will look into the residence part but, the problem I have there is I am a silent owner on the property right now my name is not currently on the deed. There is a reason for it but anyhow I didn't think it made a difference because I don't see anywhere that if you own property In PA that they would grant a permit. Believe I have read and looked and all it said for non res is you must have your home permit. Thanks again I will research more and try as a poster said try Lackawanna County.

[wrangler1120]

Lackawanna/Luzerne will issue to non residents only if they have a license in their home state.

[Sgt.K]

I would advise you to ask for advice.

Likely too subtle...