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Thread: Chamber size, 3 or 3 1/2
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April 24th, 2014, 10:40 AM #1
Chamber size, 3 or 3 1/2
Looking to by a new shot gun, most likely a Winchester for general use, clay birds, turkey, and other small game birds. No ducks or geese at this time. Wondering if a 3" shell is enough or should i spend the extra dollars for the 3 1/2" model.
What would I be missing out on by limiting my choices with the 3"Sit down! You'll never clear leather.
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April 24th, 2014, 11:08 AM #2
Re: Chamber size, 3 or 3 1/2
What will you be missing - a sore and dislocated shoulder (ok, maybe not that bad).
Unless you are going to do a lot of wing shooting, 3" should be fine. Most of what you plan to use it for will be done with 2-3/4" shells anyway.
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If you plan to keep a SHTF stock of shells on hand, go with 2-3/4" shells (00 buck or slug). Yes, your gun can chamber longer, but not every shotgun can. If you find someone else's shotgun in your hands and need your ammo, 3" shells don't work well in a 2-3/4" chamber. I have an early 70s Ithaca with a 2-3/4" chamber, and a Mossberg with a 3" chamber. My SHTF ammo stash is 2-3/4 so I don't need to worry about grabbing the wrong box.Soap Box - Worn out : Ballot Box - Broken : Jury Box - Pending : Ammunition Box - Unknown
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Re: Chamber size, 3 or 3 1/2
I recently came into a 3 1/2 chambered turkey gun. I have only been putting 3" in it.
I don't really see a need for 3 1/2. JMO.FOAC Member, NRA Member
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Re: Chamber size, 3 or 3 1/2
When I upgraded shotguns a few years ago I bought a Remington 11-87 supermag that I had nothing but problems with. Eventually Remington replaced it with a Versa-Max & I couldn't be happier.
I'm not advocating for you to buy a Remington here, there are many 3.5" auto & pumps out there to choose from (I will say stay away from the 11-87 super mag). The biggest thing I found out with the 11-87 SM is that it's common that they do not like trap loads. You'll also find this concern more prevalent on 3.5" autos than 3".
I like the 3.5" option because I can utilize a wider assortment of shells. That said, a 3" shell will take out anything you need it to - Geese, duck & turkey. I wouldn't say you have a significant advantage by being able to shoot an extra 1/8 oz of lead or steel.
3.5" do thump. The only time I notice it is when patterning a load. otherwise you only need one a turkey & i'm standing up to shoot waterfowl so the shock isn't really a problem.
I also like the idea that if I forgot my shells in the truck, I can definitely get by with bumming a few off my hunting partner & it doesn't matter what he's using.
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April 24th, 2014, 12:35 PM #6
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Food for thought...
Everything that walks on the surface of this planet has been killed by the 2-1/2" 12ga shell at one time or another. Yes, I said 2-1/2". From mice on up to elephant have been killed with it. ...so think for a second, is the 3-1/2" really necessary when 2-1/2", 2-5/8", 2-3/4", and 3" have done it all and can still do it all? Even the 3" shell isn't necessary.RIP: SFN, 1861, twoeggsup, Lambo, jamesjo, JayBell, 32 Magnum, Pro2A, mrwildroot, dregan, Frenchy, Fragger, ungawa, Mtn Jack, Grapeshot, R.W.J., PennsyPlinker, Statkowski, Deanimator, roland, aubie515
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April 24th, 2014, 12:43 PM #7
Re: Chamber size, 3 or 3 1/2
Yeah, but think about it... 3 1/2 makes things deader
Longer shell gives a little longer range, turkey, is tough but say you where going water foul, geese, you might want that little extra oumph... Mind you, like other s have said, bring the tylenol for the shoulder after.Skeet is a sport where you are better to hit half of each bird then completely blast one and miss the other completely.
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April 24th, 2014, 12:54 PM #8
Re: Chamber size, 3 or 3 1/2
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April 24th, 2014, 12:55 PM #9
Re: Chamber size, 3 or 3 1/2
I think 3" mag shells have more than enough snot to them. Unless you're one of those anti-aircraft goose hunters I used to run into in Joisey, it's plenty big enough. If you think you need more, get a 10 gauge.
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April 24th, 2014, 01:07 PM #10
Re: Chamber size, 3 or 3 1/2
Well stated.
When I decided to go to a dedicated turky gun a few years ago I got caught up in the 3 1/2" hype so I bought an 835. I've shot exactly one box of 3 1/2's through it when I patterned it and that was plenty. I'm not what I would call recoil shy (I actually think most Mosins are pussy cats) but, those things hurt after about 5 rounds. By ten I was left with a very nice multi-colored bruise for the next several days. I hunted for years with a Mossy 500 and 3" turkey loads. They never failed me and I'm not really sure why I chose to go to the bigger shells. I have one box of federal 3 1/2" turkey loads that will last me a long time because I never shoot the things unless a gobbler lines up in the sights.
My advice save the extra $$$$ and buy some shells. 3" is plenty of gun for anything you will hunt in the US.
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