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    Default Transportation Question

    I know that without an LTCF, you must be going to or from a place where you were legally doing something with the firearm (range, shop, etc) and it must be unloaded and the ammo in a separate place from the firearm.

    Having an LTCF, does that still restrict me to separating the ammo and firearm? Obviously you can carry a loaded firearm with the LTCF in a vehicle, but what if I am headed to the range and the gun is in the trunk of my car. Perhaps I have a mag loaded, but the mag isnt in the gun, but next to it in the case. Is this OK? When I travel to the range I usually have everything in the same bag, but the ammo is just in a different zippered pocket.

    I am hoping the answer is "do whatever you want, you have an LTCF"

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    Default Re: Transportation Question

    do whatever you want, you have an LTCF

    with regards to what the state calls "firearms" as opposed to rifles and shotguns etc. you can have as many firearms loaded on you, off body, in your trunk, whatever, as many as you want, doesnt matter if you are on your way to or from the range or grandma's house... remember this is when you have a LTCF

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    Default Re: Transportation Question

    Even with the LTCF, you cannot have a loaded long arm in the vehicle. With the LTCF you can have a loaded handgun, SBR or SBS, but not a loaded shotgun or rifle. This has been discussed many times on the forum.
    Ron USAF Ret E-8 FFL01/SOT3 NRA Benefactor Member

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    Default Re: Transportation Question

    Quote Originally Posted by Xringshooter View Post
    Even with the LTCF, you cannot have a loaded long arm in the vehicle. With the LTCF you can have a loaded handgun, SBR or SBS, but not a loaded shotgun or rifle. This has been discussed many times on the forum.
    I understand that. What I am asking is if I am transporting it NOT loaded, do I still need to "separate" the ammo in any way?

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    Default Re: Transportation Question

    Quote Originally Posted by noofus View Post
    I understand that. What I am asking is if I am transporting it NOT loaded, do I still need to "separate" the ammo in any way?
    no you do not... nor do you need to transport it unloaded if you do not wish to do so .... as long as you have a LTCF

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    Default Re: Transportation Question

    Quote Originally Posted by c.sander View Post
    no you do not... nor do you need to transport it unloaded if you do not wish to do so .... as long as you have a LTCF
    This is incorrect. Please refer to posts 3 & 4 above. You will notice that they are discussing long guns. You may not transport loaded long guns in a vehicle, even with a LTCF.
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    Default Re: Transportation Question

    Quote Originally Posted by noofus View Post
    I understand that. What I am asking is if I am transporting it NOT loaded, do I still need to "separate" the ammo in any way?
    Could you please clarify your question a little more. If the firearm (long gun) is not loaded, then it is already "separated" from the ammo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gnbrotz View Post
    This is incorrect. Please refer to posts 3 & 4 above. You will notice that they are discussing long guns. You may not transport loaded long guns in a vehicle, even with a LTCF.
    sorry as i read his question i took it to mean he was asking if he were transporting his firearm to the range in an unloaded condition, not as if he were transporting a long arm. he does NOT mention long arms in his OP. he said what if his firearm was UNLOADED. did it still need to have seperate containers for the ammo, i was the one who brought up long arms

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    Perhaps we could all be more of a help if the OP was as specific as possible. Many people don't make the distinction between the legal definition of 'firearms' per the UFA and using it as a general term instead of "gun".
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    Default Re: Transportation Question

    Quote Originally Posted by gnbrotz View Post
    Could you please clarify your question a little more. If the firearm (long gun) is not loaded, then it is already "separated" from the ammo.
    I guess I wasnt clear. I wasnt talking about longguns in my original post. I was talking about handguns. One of the other posters mentioned the long gun thing...

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