Travelling to Rhode Island

**CrazyFeet** · June 3rd, 2008, 03:00 PM

Ok I will be traveling to Rhode Island for a week in June to do some camping.

I was wondering what laws I need to be aware of when traveling with firearms and what laws i might need to be aware of when I am in the state.

I was thinking if I just bring a shotgun I will be fine because the laws for them are pretty lenient.

Is this a good assumption? Again, where could I go to find the laws.

For example. I know I will not bring my Glock because of the NY state laws. I would not mind bringing my Kel Tec Sub 2000 and just using 10rd magazines but again I am not sure.

I want to stay on the safe side and be 100% legal.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks

**625** · June 3rd, 2008, 03:14 PM

usacarry.com is a good start. I had to go to Providence for a business trip last year. I was a mere subject in that crappy state.

**King 5.45** · June 3rd, 2008, 03:18 PM

Be aware that it is not in the general practice of New York authorities to respect Federal guarantees of "peaceful journey."

Here's boiler plate from NYPD's own 78 pages of rules:

§ 16-05 Required Security Measures for Weapons Shipments in Transit

Any person, corporation, partnership, or other business entity using a vehicle to transport weapons within or through the City of New York shall, at a minimum, employ the following security measures while such weapons are in transit:

(a) All weapons shall be transported unloaded.

(b) All weapons shall be placed in one or more containers located within the vehicle used for transportation of the weapons. Such containers shall be constructed of materials of such a sturdy character that when the container is closed and locked, it cannot be forced open by hands alone, or sliced open with a common tool such as a knife or box cutter.

(c) The above referenced container(s) shall be securely fastened, with a combination or key locking device, to the interior body structure of the transporting vehicle, in such a manner that the containers cannot be manually removed without releasing the locks.

(d) Such containers, while in transit and carrying weapons, shall be closed and locked with a heavy-duty combination or key-type lock.

(e) Ammunition shall not be stored in the same container as weapons.

(f) At all times other than loading and unloading, the cargo area of the transporting vehicle in which all of the above referenced containers shall be stored shall be closed and locked with a heavy-duty combination or key-type lock.

(g) The driver of the transporting vehicle shall carry a manifest which declares the numbers and types of weapons being transported, and the intended point of delivery. Such manifest shall not be considered valid unless it shall have written upon it the permission serial number issued by the New York City Police Department License Division.

(h)

(1) The Police Commissioner may require, as a condition of the authorization to transport or deliver weapons, that shipments of weapons which will be off-loaded from one means of transportation and subsequently on-loaded to the same means or another means of transportation within the city of New York, be escorted by a uniformed member of the New York City Police Department, from the time of on-loading until such point that the shipment has left the jurisdictional boundaries of the City of New York.

(2) If the Police Commissioner elects to impose the escort requirement as a condition of the authorization to transport or deliver weapons, the applicant shall notify the Commanding Officer, License Division, of the day, date, estimated time and place of on-loading of the shipment to the second means of transportation. The escort requirement shall be deemed waived if the escort is not present at the place within the City of New York where the weapons will be on-loaded within thirty minutes of the shipment’s estimated time of on-loading and departure.

If I were you, I'd take the Tappan Zee. The only way I head that way with anything that would interest them would be a permanent move to VT or NH.

**chrisjames_71** · June 3rd, 2008, 04:25 PM

Originally Posted by King 5.45

Be aware that it is not in the general practice of New York authorities to respect Federal guarantees of "peaceful journey."

Here's boiler plate from NYPD's own 78 pages of rules:

If I were you, I'd take the Tappan Zee. The only way I head that way with anything that would interest them would be a permanent move to VT or NH.

He lives in Scranton and doesn't need to go through the city, if he follows mapquest, he won't even come close to NYC. So those rules won't effect him at all.

New York State Firearms:

http://www.nysrpa.org/nygunlaws.htm

A non-resident citizen may possess a rifle or shotgun in New York, as long as it is unloaded while being transported. No person may carry, possess or transport a handgun in or through the state unless he has a valid New York license. New York does not issue licenses to non-residents nor does it recognize licenses issued by other states. (A provision of federal law provides a defense to state or local laws which would prohibit the passage of persons with firearms in interstate travel. If a person is traveling from any place where he may lawfully possess and transport a firearm to any other place where he may lawfully possess and transport such firearm and the firearm is unloaded and in the trunk. In vehicles without a trunk, the unloaded firearm shall be in a locked container other than the glove compartment or console. Necessary stops, e.g., gasoline and rest, seem permissible.) A member or coach of an accredited college or university target pistol team may transport a handgun into or through New York to participate in a collegiate, Olympic or target pistol shooting competition provided that the handgun is unloaded and carried in a locked carrying case and the ammunition is carried in a separate locked container. An alien may possess a rifle or shotgun for use while hunting provided he has a valid New York hunting license. "If such (handgun) license is issued to an alien, or to a person not a citizen of and usually a resident in the state, the licensing officer shall state in the license the particular reason for the issuance and the names of the persons certifying to the good character of the applicant." Non-resident target shooters may enter or pass through New York State with handguns for the purposes of any NRA approved competition if the competitor has in his possession a copy of the match program, proof of entry and a pistol license from his state of residence. The handgun must be unloaded and transported in a locked opaque container.

**King 5.45** · June 3rd, 2008, 04:39 PM

Originally Posted by chrisjames_71

He lives in Scranton and doesn't need to go through the city, if he follows mapquest, he won't even come close to NYC. So those rules won't effect him at all.

New York State Firearms:

http://www.nysrpa.org/nygunlaws.htm

A non-resident citizen may possess a rifle or shotgun in New York, as long as it is unloaded while being transported. No person may carry, possess or transport a handgun in or through the state unless he has a valid New York license. New York does not issue licenses to non-residents nor does it recognize licenses issued by other states. (A provision of federal law provides a defense to state or local laws which would prohibit the passage of persons with firearms in interstate travel. If a person is traveling from any place where he may lawfully possess and transport a firearm to any other place where he may lawfully possess and transport such firearm and the firearm is unloaded and in the trunk. In vehicles without a trunk, the unloaded firearm shall be in a locked container other than the glove compartment or console. Necessary stops, e.g., gasoline and rest, seem permissible.) A member or coach of an accredited college or university target pistol team may transport a handgun into or through New York to participate in a collegiate, Olympic or target pistol shooting competition provided that the handgun is unloaded and carried in a locked carrying case and the ammunition is carried in a separate locked container. An alien may possess a rifle or shotgun for use while hunting provided he has a valid New York hunting license. "If such (handgun) license is issued to an alien, or to a person not a citizen of and usually a resident in the state, the licensing officer shall state in the license the particular reason for the issuance and the names of the persons certifying to the good character of the applicant." Non-resident target shooters may enter or pass through New York State with handguns for the purposes of any NRA approved competition if the competitor has in his possession a copy of the match program, proof of entry and a pistol license from his state of residence. The handgun must be unloaded and transported in a locked opaque container.

That's good to know. Know also that NYS will pretty much bust you if they catch you doing anything more than stopping for gas and food immediately off the highway. Overnight is a no-no, a big one. They consider even a night's rest residency enough to subject you to their draconian laws.

**CrazyFeet** · June 3rd, 2008, 04:49 PM

WOW thanks for all the great info.

It looks like I will DEFINITELY leave the Glock at home for this trip.

I will be camping and on a campground and I have no idea what it will be like and will most likely just take my mossberg with me. I understand the laws and will keep the shotgun LOCKED in a case and keep the AMMO LOCKED in another case. I THINK I also need to write up a manifest with all the Guns and ammo in the vehicle as well.

Glad I moved out of that state!!!!

Thanks again for the help!