So who here has done it?

**icp4life162005** · May 29th, 2008, 07:29 PM

https://www.frontsight.com/free-gun6.asp

Sounds like a scam to me but I have been wrong in the past, so anyone try it?

**kprojects** · May 29th, 2008, 07:41 PM

Frontsight isn't a scam and is respected by a ton of people.. that being said, I can't see this being a scam either. They're probably banking on you telling your friends after your trip out there and them signing up for some training.. or you going back for other training..

He offered me a class back a couple years ago when I had my glockers.com site up and going so that i'd write up a review.. tell ppl about it.. etc.. I didn't take him up on it because of new baby being born, work, blah blah.. Wish I would have gone!!

I did look into it though. You can spend hours on his site looking at different videos and write-ups and stuff.

People i've talked to that took classes there always have great things to say.

**sjl127** · May 29th, 2008, 07:58 PM

Anyone that calls himself doctor, without any credentials, is a fraud. I don't care if the course if legit, or not.

I've looked everywhere and have no idea what kind of dr this clown is.

**Broomhandle** · May 29th, 2008, 08:21 PM

I would be skeptical. Please report what happens if you try out the offer.
What I would not do is...

1. Let him sell you land...
http://www.pahrumpvalleytimes.com/20...rontsight.html
http://www.lasvegasnow.com/global/story.asp?s=5882177

2. Let him put you on an obstacle course...
http://www.klas-tv.com/Global/story.asp?S=6752130

3. Let him talk to you about God...
http://www.dianahsieh.com/scientology/index.html

**kprojects** · May 29th, 2008, 08:35 PM

Ha - looks like I spoke too soon

Thanks for the links Broom.

**Chainsaw** · May 29th, 2008, 09:04 PM

Originally Posted by sjl127

Anyone that calls himself doctor, without any credentials, is a fraud. I don't care if the course if legit, or not.
I've looked everywhere and have no idea what kind of dr this clown is.

Broomhandle's #1 article says he's a chiropractor.

It seems he is an aggressive entrepreneur who is an even more aggressive defender of gun rights. What's wrong with that?

Originally Posted by Broomhandle

2. Let him put you on an obstacle course...
http://www.klas-tv.com/Global/story.asp?S=6752130

3. Let him talk to you about God...
http://www.dianahsieh.com/scientology/index.html

You make it sound like he pushed the guy out of a window! Who knows what the story is, the article sure doesn't make it clear.
I don't care what his religion is either.

**jb12string** · May 29th, 2008, 11:06 PM

There are two sets of 4 words that are always deal breakers, "But wait, there's more" and "It gets even better" I don't recall of the top of my head whether that page mentioned thoses exact phrases, but that sure is the vibe I got. Just reading about the real estate deal is enough to make me run

**sjl127** · May 30th, 2008, 06:26 AM

Besides, he's a back cracker, and I wouldn't even associate his "dr" with running a training course.

**Montanya** · May 30th, 2008, 07:44 AM

Yeah I got the dvd from their site about training, looks like a helluva training facility and this guy is most certainly on "our side" he does alot of free training for law enforcement, celebrities, politicians etc to get them over to our side more. So I hardly doubt it is a scam. Frontsight has been around a long time and trained tons of people. If I ever get my ass out to Vegas I would certainly stop for a class.

**jb12string** · June 4th, 2008, 12:51 AM

Just got this from the president of Auction Arms:
We are now into our tenth year at AuctionArms.com and I really can’t remember the last time I sent a personal e-mail to all of our Auction Arms Users at once. I’m sending you this e-mail now because I ran across an unbelievable deal, and I thought you would like to know about it.

I recently returned from the NRA Convention where ran into someone you might have heard of - Dr. Ignatius Piazza, the founder of Front Sight Firearms Training Institute. We got to talking, and Dr. Piazza has made a reputation for himself by giving away tens of millions of dollars in world class firearms training, guns, and gear - to make it easy for law abiding citizens to secure what he refers to as the Comfort of Skill at Arms.

He also make me a aware of an offer that thousands of people have already taken advantage - the free guns he gives away. I found out about it and I'm taking advantage of it myself.

You can see the details of this offer at http://www.frontsight.com/free-gunAA.asp

Normally, Dr. Piazza only provides such amazing offers for his own students, their immediate families and friends. But because I was so impressed with his course and the free gun, I asked him if he could work something out for Auction Arms users.

Dr. Piazza agreed, but told me upfront that he only had a limited number of Springfield Armory XD Pistols to give away at no charge so Auction Arms users will have to act fast.

So if you want to take advantage of Front Sight Firearms Training Institute’s Four Day Defensive Handgun Course and One Day 30 State Concealed Weapon Permit Course at a substantial savings PLUS if you can act quickly, also get a brand new, Springfield Armory XD Pistol and a bunch of great tactical gear AT NO CHARGE, then go to http://www.frontsight.com/free-gunAA.asp today and take advantage of the Millionaire Patriot’s amazingly generous offer.

That’s right! A Springfield Armory XD Pistol in 9mm, .40Sw, or .45ACP at NO CHARGE!

It’s very easy to get, just go to http://www.frontsight.com/free-gunAA.asp

I know… a free gun and gear sounds too good to be true, but it's true! I've already taken advantage of it myself and I hope to see you at Front Sight when I attend my Four Day Defensive Handgun Course and One Day 30 State Concealed Weapon Permit Course.

You need to go to the special webpage that Dr. Piazza created just for Auction Arms users to secure your FREE GUN. This offer won’t last long as he only set aside a LIMITED NUMBER of Courses, Guns and Gear for Auction Arms users.

So go to http://www.frontsight.com/free-gunAA.asp today and take advantage of the amazing benefit that Dr. Piazza and Front Sight are generously offering to us!

See you on the range.

Sincerely,

Manny DelaCruz

CEO/AuctionArms.com, Inc.

PS I’m no stranger to weapons and training, having been in the Marine Corps for four years and running AuctionArms.com for the last ten years. I have to tell you that EVERYONE I know who has been to Front Sight raves about it. Here at Auction Arms we are all chomping at the bit to attend our course at Front Sight so I hope we will see you there too.

Sounds less like a personal letter and more like a sleazy sales pitch