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    Default QUESTION ABOUT ALTITUDE

    i dont know where to go for information and wouldn't know how to word it if i did a google search, so here goes. i have a thunder mug. its a piece of stainless steel (seamless) 6" tall 4" dia with a 2" bore. i packed some black powder in it and placed a (cro-cay) (dont know how to spell it) ball on top of it. the ball weighs about 1/4 lb. after ignition the ball took 18 seconds to reach earth. the mug was pointed straight up. im trying to find out how high the ball went. any ideas?

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    OK...I just drank a couple Lycanbrews and that may make me feel smarter than I am........

    But......doesn't everything drop at an accleerated rate of 9.8M/s/s?

    http://www.glenbrook.k12.il.us/GBSSC...Kin/U1L5b.html

    I think we could figure it out from there. But no way could I do that until the morning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bogey1 View Post
    i dont know where to go for information and wouldn't know how to word it if i did a google search, so here goes. i have a thunder mug. its a piece of stainless steel (seamless) 6" tall 4" dia with a 2" bore. i packed some black powder in it and placed a (cro-cay) (dont know how to spell it) ball on top of it. the ball weighs about 1/4 lb. after ignition the ball took 18 seconds to reach earth. the mug was pointed straight up. im trying to find out how high the ball went. any ideas?
    Are you kidding me? Do you know how much of a pain in the ass it is to do these calculations?

    It's a lesson in physics and I would have to bust out my old college books about this stuff, but all I remember that would help you out now, is this...

    The ball went about 868 yards high. Based on your 18 second observation.

    Physics gurus, if you want to check me, assume 9 seconds up, and down based on similar deceleration and acceleration at 9.8 m/s2. Equation,

    x=1/2 * a * t^2

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    I'll get the easy part: croquet!

    Swish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sjl127 View Post
    Are you kidding me? Do you know how much of a pain in the ass it is to do these calculations?

    It's a lesson in physics and I would have to bust out my old college books about this stuff, but all I remember that would help you out now, is this...

    The ball went about 868 yards high. Based on your 18 second observation.

    Physics gurus, if you want to check me, assume 9 seconds up, and down based on similar deceleration and acceleration at 9.8 m/s2. Equation,

    x=1/2 * a * t^2
    dont ask me how i did it but i figured 2500 feet..

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    Quote Originally Posted by TaePo View Post
    I'll get the easy part: croquet!

    Swish.
    i wasnt even close on that one........

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    Copied from
    http://www.sjgames.com/gurps/books/h.../artillery.pdf
    Long-range artillery fire often takes a while to arrive
    at the target. Flight time is subject to many variables:
    projectile shape and weight, propellant charge, propellant
    temperature and pressure, barrel length and wear,
    air temperature and pressure, etc.
    Try googling on artillery "flight time".

    Would a laser rangefinder help, or would the croquet ball be too small a target?

    Unfortunately the flight time isn't symmetrical with the ball's path, as the ball likely reaches terminal velocity before striking the earth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PA Rifleman View Post
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    Try googling on artillery "flight time".

    Would a laser rangefinder help, or would the croquet ball be too small a target?

    Unfortunately the flight time isn't symmetrical with the ball's path, as the ball likely reaches terminal velocity before striking the earth.
    we didnt see the ball until about one second before impact. i have it on youtube but you cant see the ball. on the original video you can see the ball right before impact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bogey1 View Post
    dont ask me how i did it but i figured 2500 feet..
    Which is pretty close to 833 yards......near to SJ127's post.......

    AT this point, I'd have said....damn high....near half a mile.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lycanthrope View Post
    Which is pretty close to 833 yards......near to SJ127's post.......

    AT this point, I'd have said....damn high....near half a mile.
    yep, thats what i was saying. sj127 must have done his homework....

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