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    Angry SB1193 Guest Opinion Courier Times

    Here is what was posted in the Courier Times this morning: Please let me know your thoughts!!


    Legislators who want to arm teachers part of the problem

    By JULIA BUMBAUGH-SHAH
    On Dec. 14, a disturbed young man walked into an elementary school and, in less than 11 minutes, shot and killed 20 first grade children and six staff before killing
    himself. Little has changed to make children safer as a result,
    and, in fact, some states have made guns more accessible. Now with
    the introduction of SB 1193, some Pennsylvania legislators want to
    put guns in our schools.
    Those Sandy Hook children were not my children, not my family
    members, not my community. Yet, as we approached the first
    anniversary of that horrible day, the reminders kept blind-siding
    me. When I would see my friends’ six-year-old daughters playing in
    the yard, or watch my sons play soccer with their friends, the pictures
    of those 20 smiling faces appeared in my mind.
    I know there are teachers and staff in my sons’ school who would
    step between a bullet and a child. That tragedy rang a chord in me
    which will not stop reverberating.
    I keep thinking how easily it could have been Newtown, Pa., instead of Newtown, Conn.
    On the anniversary of the massacre, I attended a candlelight vigil
    held at the George School. My son was one of several Council Rock
    students who read the names and ages of 154 U.S. children under age
    10 who had been killed by guns since Sandy Hook.
    In preparation, I looked up the news reports on each of the
    12 children my son would name. One child died because a babysitter
    fell asleep leaving her handgun on a table. Another was shot
    by his mother’s boyfriend while playing with a real gun thought to
    be unloaded. A sibling group with domestic violence-involved parents were
    killed by their mother who then also killed their father and herself.
    Another child and his mother were killed by his father in a murder-
    suicide. Another was killed collaterally in a shooting into a
    family gathering. At the vigil, I grieved hearing
    the names of babies and small children, imagining the loss
    and regret experienced by their families and communities. Every
    death was preventable, if there hadn’t been a gun... And every
    death is a call to act. Disturbingly, U.S. children and
    teens are 17 times more likely to die from a gun than their peers in
    25 other high-income countries combined, according to the Children’s
    Defense Fund. Our legislators must close the loopholes
    and enact laws that will protect. But the recently introduced bill
    SB 1193, which would allow school boards to decide to allow
    administrators, teachers and staff members to carry guns on school
    property, is horribly misguided. That list of 154 children shows
    that the prevalence of guns in our communities is what makes
    our children unsafe. No one but a police officer who is trained to
    use both his/her weapon and good judgment should be allowed in
    schools with a gun. I want my children’s teachers and administrators to spend their
    in-service training time learning effective strategies to educate my
    children. They don’t have time to develop and practice police offi cer
    level skills in weapons handling and if they do, then they will not be able
    to give our children the quality of education they need. We must keep
    guns away from children, not saturate their world with them.
    I decided to tie a green and white ribbon around a tree in my
    yard for the month of December to honor and remember the
    Sandy Hook children and all children killed by gun violence. I
    had thought to take down the ribbon at the end of the month, but
    instead will keep it up indefinitely. Backward legislation like SB 1193
    shows we have a long way to go to change our gun culture. We must
    remain mindful of all those precious lives already wasted.
    Our legislators need to use common sense and enact legislation
    that focuses on gun safety. Our legislators must enact laws
    that require background checks for all guns sold, regardless of barrel
    length. They must enact laws that get rid of high capacity magazines
    and weapons that can kill 26 people in mere minutes. Legislators
    who think the answer is to arm teachers are part of the problem.
    Supporters of SB 1193 must be voted out of office. We need legislators
    who will enact laws that protect children rather than further
    the interests of the gun industry.

    Julia Bumbaugh-Shah, Newtown, is a stay at-home mother of two elementary school
    children.

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    Just another misguided neophyte who blames the tool, rather than the person using it. No concept of reality IMO.
    Last edited by Fotomaniac2011; January 16th, 2014 at 12:22 PM.

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    Default Re: SB1193 Guest Opinion Courier Times

    I would rather have a trained act 235 security officer at each school who would be the first responder to help stop further damage.

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    She mentions that there are teachers who would jump between a child and a bullet. Well, that is nice and all, but all it does is get that teacher wounded and/or killed. Effectively taking the only adult, presumably the only one who may have a chance at defending the rest of the children, out of commission. Once said teacher jumps in front of the bullet, he or she has protected that one child, for a second.

    He or she sacrificing themselves only adds one more body to the count. It won't stop the shooter from continuing to shoot kids and moving along down the hallway to the next classroom. Now, if said teacher had a gun, there is a much better chance of him or her taking the shooter out and ending the whole thing right there. Which makes more sense to you?

    I also enjoyed her description of all of the kids who were killed at home by irresponsible or murderous gun owners. What does this have to do with large groups of children in schools being shot at in mass? Nonsensical bullshit.

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    Default Re: SB1193 Guest Opinion Courier Times

    anti gun astro turff. Dim whit.

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    A question.....I honestly do not know..... What are police officer level skills? How much time do officers have to train with their firearms each year?

    "They don’t have time to develop and practice police officer
    level skills in weapons handling and if they do"

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    Two can play that game. If she wants to get all emotional and waive the bloody shirt, I'd like to ask her a question. "Ms. Bumbaugh-Shaw, if you could go back in time, would you hand guns to the teachers at Sandy Hook as the shooting started? Yes or no, would you give them guns or walk away?"

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    Having designated schools and the areas around them as "no gun" zones draws those who want to inflict mass casualties to them. If people know they'll have a considerable amount of time before an armed response, they'll go there. You don't see these crazies going to the court house, which has armed guards. You don't see them going to the mall, which typically has a police cruiser somewhere nearby and guards in it. Un-doing the "no gun" zones makes those who want to inflict mass casualties re-consider their target. Allowing those teachers, administrators, and guards access to guns is a no-brainer.

    As for the "stay at home mother of 2", she's citing 154 deaths of children by guns. How many are killed by knives? Would she eliminate knives? How about the thousands killed by automobiles each year. Would she ban automobiles? How about the number killed by drowning? Would she eliminate water? I've seen a lot of women like her. They'll do ANYTHING to protect their children from every conceivable hazard, no matter how wildly improbable. The next letter from her may mention the threat of space debris striking the school, and how they should build a shield over every school to "protect the children".

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    Quote Originally Posted by CraigInPa View Post
    How many are killed by knives? Would she eliminate knives?
    One of the topics of discussion right before Newtown happened was a mass knife attack in a Chinese elementary school that occurred a day or two Newtown.

    http://forum.pafoa.org/lounge-108/19...-children.html

    Knife attacks are apparently a problem in China.

    http://forum.pafoa.org/2096557-post-3.html

    Someone on this site (not sure who) once made the point that people tend to default to whatever is available if they want to harm someone. I agree with them completely.

    In the absence of guns there are plenty of other ways to harm people. But firearms are the most effective way for honest citizens to defend themselves against others who would do them harm.
    Last edited by internet troll; January 16th, 2014 at 12:35 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by internet troll View Post
    How much time do officers have to train with their firearms each year?
    Most cops of my acquaintance view firearms training as onerous and avoid shooting like I avoid the plague.

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