Suppressors can be moved interstate... without asking

[thundrr1]

BATF. I wasn't aware of the change in 2009 (maybe it was always there, but I didn't know). You can now take your suppressors or AOW's to any state where they are legal without notifying the bureau. I'm pretty sure they want you to tell them when you move permanently.


Form 5320.20, Application to Transport Interstate or to
Temporarily Export Certain NFA Firearms
The GCA, 18 U.S.C. 922 (a)(4), requires that a person
obtain permission from ATF to transport a machinegun,
short-barreled rifle, short-barreled shotgun, or destructive
device across State lines. Regulation 27 CFR 478.28 exempts
an FFL who can deal, import, or manufacture firearms and
who has paid the applicable SOT based on this[?] requirement
and also exempts a person licensed as a collector of
curios or relics if the firearm being transported is a curio or
relic. Note that there is no requirement for any person to
receive permission to move a silencer or firearm classified as
an “any other weapon” across State lines. The NFA Branch
will also accept an ATF Form 5320.20 to notify the NFA
Branch of an intrastate change of address.

Edit: http://www.atf.gov/files/publication...er-2009-11.pdf

Go to the section titled "Form 5320.20, Application to Transport Interstate or to Temporarily Export Certain NFA Firearms" on page 6).

[TheGhost27]

Thanks for posting this! I was wondering what the protocol was for doing this with a suppressor.

[Kramer]

Yes that information is correct and current.

[ungawa]

I thought it was always this way.

[thundrr1]

I thought it was always this way.

As I stated,,,,, maybe it was always there, but I didn't know it. I just wanted to make sure others were aware of this fact. I thought we had to notify them of an interstate move, temporary or permanent.

[ungawa]

I like this one.

I think suppressors are a $50 fine in Vermont, although I never verified.

ATF will not approve a Form 1 or Form 4 for suppressors in Vermont because they know they are illegal. A Vermonter with a can would probably go to federal PMITA (pound me in the ass prison) for 10 years.

But if I go to Vermont with suppressors I assume I only get the $50 fine if I get called on it. Although they might take my can.

Either way, somebody is getting your can.

[Democrat Gun Owner]

I like this one.

I think suppressors are a $50 fine in Vermont, although I never verified.

ATF will not approve a Form 1 or Form 4 for suppressors in Vermont because they know they are illegal. A Vermonter with a can would probably go to federal PMITA (pound me in the ass prison) for 10 years.

But if I go to Vermont with suppressors I assume I only get the $50 fine if I get called on it. Although they might take my can.

Either way, somebody is getting your can.

So, in Vermont, you don't need a carry permit, but it's illegal to purchase/possess a silencer??

Was that a compromise at some point?

[Kramer]

So, in Vermont, you don't need a carry permit, but it's illegal to purchase/possess a silencer??

Was that a compromise at some point?

Why does that have to be a compromise?

Each states carry laws and NFA laws are different and not connected.

Examples:
In Vermont you can own all NFA except Suppressors.
In PA you can own all NFA except exploding DDs.
In NY you can have a DD and AOW (on a pistol license).

That's what those states decided to be legal at some time or another and if you look down the entire list of states and what's legal/illegal you would sit there and shake your head on how convoluted state laws are regarding NFA ownership.

[Democrat Gun Owner]

Why does that have to be a compromise?

Each states carry laws and NFA laws are different and not connected.

Examples:
In Vermont you can own all NFA except Suppressors.
In PA you can own all NFA except exploding DDs.
In NY you can have a DD and AOW (on a pistol license).

That's what those states decided to be legal at some time or another and if you look down the entire list of states and what's legal/illegal you would sit there and shake your head on how convoluted state laws are regarding NFA ownership.

State law can (as you stated) restrict NFA ownership of certain weapons. Therefore, state legislatures can possible compromise one for the other.

By no means am I suggesting there should be compromise. I'm just questioning the legislative history of Vermont not requiring a license to conceal carry while outlawing silencers.

BTW, I did not know PA limited exploding destructive devices.

[ungawa]

I think there is a 99% chance the two unrelated things have nothing to do with each other.