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    Default Open gun carrier wins settlement in Corvallis unlawful detainment case

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    Default Re: Open gun carrier wins settlement in Corvallis unlawful detainment case

    link only sucks
    The city’s insurance carrier paid a man $5,000 last month to settle a lawsuit following a federal judge’s opinion that a Corvallis police officer unlawfully detained and searched the man two years ago as he was retrieving his mail — and openly carrying a gun.

    Kevin Hall, who has since moved from Corvallis to Alpine, represented himself in the lawsuit, which he launched Oct. 9, 2012, two weeks shy of the one-year deadline to file.

    The 31-year-old software developer and Monroe volunteer firefighter said he was walking the less than 200 feet to his house after retrieving his mail in the early afternoon on Oct. 26, 2011, when Corvallis Police Officer James Dodge pulled up, got out of his patrol car and approached him.

    Hall, who wore a gun in a holster attached to his belt and a knife clipped in his front pocket, said he was prepared. He had memorized his legal rights concerning interactions with law enforcement and his rights to openly carry firearms. Normally, he also had with him an audio recorder and an iPod capable of video recording to ensure the honesty of law enforcement.

    During the stop, which lasted only minutes, Officer Dodge questioned Hall, performed an exterior pat down to check for additional weapons and then checked with dispatch to see if Hall had warrants — using a name found on a piece of Hall’s mail. Hall then was allowed to go
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    Default Re: Open gun carrier wins settlement in Corvallis unlawful detainment case

    The I don't give a frick attitude displayed by the department churns my stomach. How could an internal investigation not come up with policy and law violations given the circumstances?

    One more PD with a pervasive attitude of being above the law.

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    Default Re: Open gun carrier wins settlement in Corvallis unlawful detainment case

    Quote Originally Posted by customloaded View Post
    The I don't give a frick attitude displayed by the department churns my stomach. How could an internal investigation not come up with policy and law violations given the circumstances?

    One more PD with a pervasive attitude of being above the law.

    CL
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    Default Re: Open gun carrier wins settlement in Corvallis unlawful detainment case

    Extremely saddened that this had to waste the courts time. And the towns time.

    Any word on when the County DA well be filing charges against the officer?
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    Default Re: Open gun carrier wins settlement in Corvallis unlawful detainment case

    Quote Originally Posted by PAMedic=F|A= View Post
    Any word on when the County DA well be filing charges against the officer?
    Thanks a lot; I just spewed a mouthful of soda from my mouth laughing at this! Someone being held accountable for violation of rights? Perish the thought...

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    Default Re: Open gun carrier wins settlement in Corvallis unlawful detainment case

    Quote Originally Posted by customloaded View Post
    The I don't give a frick attitude displayed by the department churns my stomach. How could an internal investigation not come up with policy and law violations given the circumstances?

    One more PD with a pervasive attitude of being above the law.

    CL
    Agreed. Sad but true.


    I thought the best quote was....
    “A lot of times we find that people are trying to draw law enforcement in and then later say that we were violating their rights,” he said. “When citizens are calling 911, we have to somehow evaluate what that situation is. Is it truly someone who is legally carrying a firearm or is it someone who committed a crime or is about to commit a crime? We get caught in the middle of that.”

    It isn't our fault for not knowing the law or violating your rights. It is...umm... the open carrier's fault. They know the law and they know we don't know the law so...ummm... its entrapment.

    Pathetic and a disgraceful.... take some personal and professional responsibility - apologize; correct / fire the cops; re-educate; and pay the guy some money for the department's screw up. Most people have less hatred for someone who will admit when wrong and attempt to make amends.

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