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    Default Brass discoloration after firing?

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    I loaded up some 9mm and noticed after firing my brass there was a rainbow tint in a specific spot on each cartridge. Seating depth was matched with factory ammo and no crimp applied. No signs of over pressure as I was in the middle between the min and max charge weight. Could it be the bullseye powder I am using? I know it performs best in 45/38 but it is called for 9mm in my reloading manual. Is this nothing to worry about?




    Hard to see the discoloration in the photo but it only appears when the residue marks are. It is on the same spot on every shell. I started reloading pistol ammo but have been reloading rifle for a couple years. I havent seen this with any of my rifle loads yet
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    Default Re: Brass discoloration after firing?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bigbent7 View Post
    Specs

    Once fired brass
    115gr projectile
    4.3gr bullseye
    CCi primers

    I loaded up some 9mm and noticed after firing my brass there was a rainbow tint in a specific spot on each cartridge. Seating depth was matched with factory ammo and no crimp applied. No signs of over pressure as I was in the middle between the min and max charge weight. Could it be the bullseye powder I am using? I know it performs best in 45/38 but it is called for 9mm in my reloading manual. Is this nothing to worry about?




    Hard to see the discoloration in the photo but it only appears when the residue marks are. It is on the same spot on every shell. I started reloading pistol ammo but have been reloading rifle for a couple years. I havent seen this with any of my rifle loads yet

    Bullseye is a dirty powder. What firearm are you using? Some handguns use a blow back design that will cause this type of "dirty" cartridge. H&K fluted chambers will do this with some of the dirtier powders.

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    Default Re: Brass discoloration after firing?

    ...is this a problem?

    Tumble it.
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    Default Re: Brass discoloration after firing?

    No doubt that Bullseye is a dirty powder but to me it looks like a low charge was used and the brass did not expand enough to seal the chamber and some gas escaped and fouled the case. Happened to me a bit when I was experimenting with 50 Beowulf rounds.

    Edit. I see that 4.3 is a mid range load. First I would double check the charge weight them bump it up to 4.4 and then 4.5 to see if goes away. 4.7 is listed max online at Alliants website and 4.6 max in Hornady 7th edition.
    Last edited by DucatiRon; August 26th, 2013 at 06:31 PM.
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    Default Re: Brass discoloration after firing?

    What DucatiRon said. Also would crimp to SAAMI specs. http://stevespages.com/jpg/cd9parabellum.jpg This will help increase pressure a tad. More importantly will prevent any bullet setback that can drastically increase pressures in a caliber like this.
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    Default Re: Brass discoloration after firing?

    Quote Originally Posted by kimbershooter View Post
    Bullseye is a dirty powder. What firearm are you using? Some handguns use a blow back design that will cause this type of "dirty" cartridge. H&K fluted chambers will do this with some of the dirtier powders.
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    Default Re: Brass discoloration after firing?

    Thanks for the advice guys. I will try your recommendations

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    Default Re: Brass discoloration after firing?

    Mine look just like that, bullseye also. I want to switch to w231 because of this, but I can't find it anywhere now.

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    Default Re: Brass discoloration after firing?

    Quote Originally Posted by Pa.Sniper View Post
    Mine look just like that, bullseye also. I want to switch to w231 because of this, but I can't find it anywhere now.
    Try searching for hp-38. Identical to 231

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    Default Re: Brass discoloration after firing?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike3888 View Post
    Try searching for hp-38. Identical to 231

    Is it damaging/weakening the brass or is it just an aesthetic thing. Also is the anyway it could damage the firearm?

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