Denied purchase of first handgun!!!!! Help!

**SondraG1990** · August 22nd, 2013, 08:38 AM

I went to the local gun dealer in Pittsburgh looking to purchase my first handgun. I'm a 23 year old girl living on her own, and I refuse to be a story on the news. So I wanted some protection for myself and home. Mind you, I've been shooting guns for years and I do have my own rifle (.223 Remington short action carbine) I found a nice 9mm ruger that I really liked and that i could afford. I filled out all of the paperwork, when they called the PICS, they were on hold for a while, then some lady got on the line and asked what I was trying to buy. He told her i was buying a handgun, and she to him not to sell me one. I've never gotten in trouble as an adult, I've done a few things when I was a kid, (fights in school, etc) but didn't think that would affect anything. I am a nurse, and had to go through extensive background checks, everything came back clean besides a harassment citation when I was 19, I was not arrested for it, or jailed. I wasn't even fined. Gun clerk told me that wouldn't matter. Or when I was 12 my mom put me in a psych hospital, but I don't think I was 302, i don't remember having a hearing or anything. Can anyone give me any insight? Would something from me being 12 years old bite me in the ass?

**Qtrborecrazy** · August 22nd, 2013, 09:00 AM

Sondra as a 23 year old female nurse please do not use a term like biting ass, it just gets my dirty ole mind going

. File the challenge and you can find out why. Maybe Gunlawyer can give you better advice. Do you need help appling a bandaide to that bite mark?

**Democrat Gun Owner** · August 22nd, 2013, 09:02 AM

How did you answer answer 11.f on the ATF form? Did you answer "yes?"

There are those who make the distinction between committed (involuntarily) and admitted (which includes voluntary). I believe the term in the question is "committed." I am not a lawyer, however, if voluntarily admitted to a mental hospital, I believe you can truthfully answer this "no."

You can also challenge your PICS denial. The link below is a good place to start your challenge.

Information on challenging a PICS denial

Good luck finding out why you were denied and overturning the denial if it was unjust!

**c45man** · August 22nd, 2013, 09:07 AM

Originally Posted by SondraG1990

I went to the local gun dealer in Pittsburgh looking to purchase my first handgun. I'm a 23 year old girl living on her own, and I refuse to be a story on the news. So I wanted some protection for myself and home. Mind you, I've been shooting guns for years and I do have my own rifle (.223 Remington short action carbine) I found a nice 9mm ruger that I really liked and that i could afford. I filled out all of the paperwork, when they called the PICS, they were on hold for a while, then some lady got on the line and asked what I was trying to buy. He told her i was buying a handgun, and she to him not to sell me one. I've never gotten in trouble as an adult, I've done a few things when I was a kid, (fights in school, etc) but didn't think that would affect anything. I am a nurse, and had to go through extensive background checks, everything came back clean besides a harassment citation when I was 19, I was not arrested for it, or jailed. I wasn't even fined. Gun clerk told me that wouldn't matter. Or when I was 12 my mom put me in a psych hospital, but I don't think I was 302, i don't remember having a hearing or anything. Can anyone give me any insight? Would something from me being 12 years old bite me in the ass?

Too many details missing. I would consult a lawyer.

**HiredGoon** · August 22nd, 2013, 09:28 AM

Is your name a common one...like Mary Smith?

If so, perhaps they need to investigate more to determine that you are you.

**Skreamz** · August 22nd, 2013, 09:41 AM

If you have a 302 (involuntary commitment) on your record then that would prohibit you from owning a firearm. As far as you going when you were 12 I would get a hold of GunLawyer001 and see if he can offer you any insight on this.

**SondraG1990** · August 22nd, 2013, 09:47 AM

I sent out my challenge form this morning, its just really boggling my mind about what I did wrong. I filled 11.f out as no because I do not remember being 302. I guess ill just wait and see what it is. I just wish they could tell me over the phone.

**SondraG1990** · August 22nd, 2013, 09:55 AM

Originally Posted by HiredGoon

Is your name a common one...like Mary Smith?

If so, perhaps they need to investigate more to determine that you are you.

I think I am the only one that has my name, unless they are in Germany. But i dont think that applies here. I guess i will contact a lawyer just for some advice, it could be something like a screw up, or it could be something from when I was 12 years old. If it was that, im sure i can have that wiped off my record, as i was only a child. I have my gun on hold, with my flashbang holster. Hopefully everything comes back as okay, if not, looks like its a baseball bat for me until i can get it all situated...

**God's Country** · August 22nd, 2013, 10:06 AM

Seems a lot of people are being denied for Physc. commitments as youths ever since pics updated their data base a few years ago.

Did you purchase your rifle from a ffl?

**Truckman** · August 22nd, 2013, 10:17 AM

Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't childhood records sealed? Meaning anything done as a juvenile couldn't be used against you.
So, does that mean PICS is using juvenile records illegally?