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    Default bristol township buckcs county ufa violation

    http://levittownnow.com/2013/08/17/security/


    I think our friends in bristol township deserve a little phone call reminder about our state preemption law.
    my goal: to get every good person in the philly region responsibly armed.

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    Default Re: bristol township buckcs county ufa violation

    Quote Originally Posted by ccphilly1984 View Post
    http://levittownnow.com/2013/08/17/security/


    I think our friends in Bristol township deserve a little phone call reminder about our state preemption law.

    I can't get you the citation right this second, however, the meetings of governing bodies (State legislature, county council, town council, etc.) are one of the named prohibited locations in state law.

    therefore, I don't think theirs a 6120 violation here..

    Also, looking outside of the immediate situation, metal detectors by them selves wouldn't necessarily be a violation. Lets say for arguments sake the township puts metal detectors at the door of a park recreation center and made everyone go through. As long as they didn't prevent you from carrying your pistol into the rec center after you made the machine go "beep", they wouldn't be in violation of 6120

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    Default Re: bristol township buckcs county ufa violation

    Quote Originally Posted by PhillyVet View Post
    I can't get you the citation right this second, however, the meetings of governing bodies (State legislature, county council, town council, etc.) are one of the named prohibited locations in state law.

    therefore, I don't think theirs a 6120 violation here..

    Also, looking outside of the immediate situation, metal detectors by them selves wouldn't necessarily be a violation. Lets say for arguments sake the township puts metal detectors at the door of a park recreation center and made everyone go through. As long as they didn't prevent you from carrying your pistol into the rec center after you made the machine go "beep", they wouldn't be in violation of 6120

    I'm very interested in seeing this citation when you can, as I am fairly certain it doesn't exist.

    I agree with the rest of your post.
    While many claim to support the right, precious few support the practice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhillyVet View Post
    I can't get you the citation right this second, however, the meetings of governing bodies (State legislature, county council, town council, etc.) are one of the named prohibited locations in state law.

    therefore, I don't think theirs a 6120 violation here..
    Bullshit.
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    Default Re: bristol township buckcs county ufa violation

    If it's in a school...

    § 912. Possession of weapon on school property.
    (a) Definition.--Notwithstanding the definition of "weapon"
    in section 907 (relating to possessing instruments of crime),
    "weapon" for purposes of this section shall include but not be
    limited to any knife, cutting instrument, cutting tool, nun-
    chuck stick, firearm, shotgun, rifle and any other tool,
    instrument or implement capable of inflicting serious bodily
    injury.
    (b) Offense defined.--A person commits a misdemeanor of the
    first degree if he possesses a weapon in the buildings of, on
    the grounds of, or in any conveyance providing transportation to
    or from any elementary or secondary publicly-funded educational
    institution, any elementary or secondary private school licensed
    by the Department of Education or any elementary or secondary
    parochial school.
    (c) Defense.--It shall be a defense that the weapon is
    possessed and used in conjunction with a lawful supervised
    school activity or course or is possessed for other lawful
    purpose.


    ...or a courthouse...

    § 913. Possession of firearm or other dangerous weapon in court
    facility.
    (a) Offense defined.--A person commits an offense if he:
    (1) knowingly possesses a firearm or other dangerous
    weapon in a court facility or knowingly causes a firearm or
    other dangerous weapon to be present in a court facility; or
    (2) knowingly possesses a firearm or other dangerous
    weapon in a court facility with the intent that the firearm
    or other dangerous weapon be used in the commission of a
    crime or knowingly causes a firearm or other dangerous weapon
    to be present in a court facility with the intent that the
    firearm or other dangerous weapon be used in the commission
    of a crime.
    (b) Grading.--
    (1) Except as otherwise provided in paragraph (3), an
    offense under subsection (a)(1) is a misdemeanor of the third
    degree.
    (2) An offense under subsection (a)(2) is a misdemeanor
    of the first degree.
    (3) An offense under subsection (a)(1) is a summary
    offense if the person was carrying a firearm under section
    6106(b) (relating to firearms not to be carried without a
    license) or 6109 (relating to licenses) and failed to check
    the firearm under subsection (e) prior to entering the court
    facility.
    (c) Exceptions.--Subsection (a) shall not apply to:
    (1) The lawful performance of official duties by an
    officer, agent or employee of the United States, the
    Commonwealth or a political subdivision who is authorized by
    law to engage in or supervise the prevention, detection,
    investigation or prosecution of any violation of law.
    (2) The lawful performance of official duties by a court
    official.
    (3) The carrying of rifles and shotguns by instructors
    and participants in a course of instruction provided by the
    Pennsylvania Game Commission under 34 Pa.C.S. § 2704
    (relating to eligibility for license).
    (4) Associations of veteran soldiers and their
    auxiliaries or members of organized armed forces of the
    United States or the Commonwealth, including reserve
    components, when engaged in the performance of ceremonial
    duties with county approval.
    (5) The carrying of a dangerous weapon or firearm
    unloaded and in a secure wrapper by an attorney who seeks to
    employ the dangerous weapon or firearm as an exhibit or as a
    demonstration and who possesses written authorization from
    the court to bring the dangerous weapon or firearm into the
    court facility.
    (d) Posting of notice.--Notice of the provisions of
    subsections (a) and (e) shall be posted conspicuously at each
    public entrance to each courthouse or other building containing
    a court facility and each court facility, and no person shall be
    convicted of an offense under subsection (a)(1) with respect to
    a court facility if the notice was not so posted at each public
    entrance to the courthouse or other building containing a court
    facility and at the court facility unless the person had actual
    notice of the provisions of subsection (a).
    (e) Facilities for checking firearms or other dangerous
    weapons.--Each county shall make available at or within the
    building containing a court facility by July 1, 2002, lockers or
    similar facilities at no charge or cost for the temporary
    checking of firearms by persons carrying firearms under section
    6106(b) or 6109 or for the checking of other dangerous weapons
    that are not otherwise prohibited by law. Any individual
    checking a firearm, dangerous weapon or an item deemed to be a
    dangerous weapon at a court facility must be issued a receipt.
    Notice of the location of the facility shall be posted as
    required under subsection (d).
    (f) Definitions.--As used in this section, the following
    words and phrases shall have the meanings given to them in this
    subsection:
    "Court facility." The courtroom of a court of record; a
    courtroom of a community court; the courtroom of a magisterial
    district judge; a courtroom of the Philadelphia Municipal Court;
    a courtroom of the Pittsburgh Magistrates Court; a courtroom of
    the Traffic Court of Philadelphia; judge's chambers; witness
    rooms; jury deliberation rooms; attorney conference rooms;
    prisoner holding cells; offices of court clerks, the district
    attorney, the sheriff and probation and parole officers; and any
    adjoining corridors.
    "Dangerous weapon." A bomb, grenade, blackjack, sandbag,
    metal knuckles, dagger, knife (the blade of which is exposed in
    an automatic way by switch, push-button, spring mechanism or
    otherwise) or other implement for the infliction of serious
    bodily injury which serves no common lawful purpose.
    "Firearm." Any weapon, including a starter gun, which will
    or is designed to expel a projectile or projectiles by the
    action of an explosion, expansion of gas or escape of gas. The
    term does not include any device designed or used exclusively
    for the firing of stud cartridges, explosive rivets or similar
    industrial ammunition.
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    Default Re: bristol township buckcs county ufa violation

    I know I've read that before (prohibition at the meetings of governing bodies and in the secure areas of Police/Sheriff stations) -

    However, now I'm thinking I may have leaped before I looked.. May be It was another state's law.. hmmm..

    Well, sorry for giving the wrong info...

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    Default Re: bristol township buckcs county ufa violation

    It happens. You're not the first

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    Default Re: bristol township buckcs county ufa violation

    Quote Originally Posted by PhillyVet View Post
    I know I've read that before (prohibition at the meetings of governing bodies and in the secure areas of Police/Sheriff stations) -

    However, now I'm thinking I may have leaped before I looked.. May be It was another state's law.. hmmm..

    Well, sorry for giving the wrong info...
    Quote Originally Posted by ungawa View Post
    It happens. You're not the first
    One of the nice things about PAFOA, if you screw up, there will be folks waiting in the wings to happily tell you that you're wrong.

    Actually, some of them don't even need for you to screw up before they'll correct you.
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    Default Re: bristol township buckcs county ufa violation

    Quote Originally Posted by GunLawyer001 View Post
    One of the nice things about PAFOA, if you screw up, there will be folks waiting in the wings to happily tell you that you're wrong.

    Actually, some of them don't even need for you to screw up before they'll correct you.
    Rules are written in the stone,
    Break the rules and you get no bones,
    all you get is ridicule, laughter,
    and a trip to the house of pain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by streaker69 View Post

    Yeah, yeah, yeah - whatever

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