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    Default An end to stop and frisk?

    http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013...udge-says?lite

    'Stop and frisk' police tactic violated constitutional rights, federal judge says
    By Erin McClam, Staff Writer, NBC News

    The New York Police Department’s “stop and frisk” policy, under which millions of mostly black and Hispanic people have been questioned by police over the past decade, has violated constitutional rights, a federal judge ruled Monday.

    The judge, Shira Scheindlin of Manhattan federal court, ordered an independent monitor to oversee the program.

    Four men had sued the city, saying that they were unfairly targeted by police. The judge ruled that their Fourth and 14th Amendment rights had been violated. The Fourth protects against unreasonable searches, and the 14th guarantees equal protection under the law.

    Scheindlin found that the police had used the tactic 4.4 million times between 2004 and 2012, and that 80 percent of the stops were of blacks and Hispanics.

    The judge emphasized that she was making no ruling about the effectiveness of the tactic in fighting crime, only on its constitutionality.

    “Many police practices may be useful for fighting crime — preventive detention or coerced confessions, for example,” she wrote, “but because they are unconstitutional they cannot be used, no matter how effective.”

    There was no immediate reaction from the city.
    Who woulda thunk it?

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    Well it was such a blatant violation, the Courts could not allow it to continue. Not even Bloomy could salvage that one

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    "The judge, Shira Scheindlin of Manhattan federal court, ordered an independent monitor to oversee the program. She pointedly did not order an end to the tactic."

    Apparently, she only stopped the profiling aspect.

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    Scheindlin stressed that she was not halting the “stop and frisk” practice, only trying to make sure that it was carried out in a way that protects the liberties and rights of New Yorkers.


    So, without RAS, how does it make it all right to carry out a STOP and FRISK?
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    Default Re: An end to stop and frisk?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gun View Post
    So, without RAS, how does it make it all right to carry out a STOP and FRISK?
    In their minds? All that means is that they should Stop and Frisk whites, blacks, hispanics, etc. equally. It doesn't sound like they want to put an end to Stop and Frisk policies, but simply want it equally distributed to all races.

    This kind of logic really does hurt.
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    The policy violates the 4th straight out of the gate. Before anyone was ever stopped.

    Of course to the police reasonable suspicion was any suspicions cooked up in their suspicious minds.

    Wish I had a dollar for every conservative that thought this was OK.
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    Now on to DUI Checkpoints.........................
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    They don't need "stop and frisk" anymore. They're buying gun radar. They won't need stop and frisk when they can unconstitutionally search you without you knowing, and then make up a BS reason to pull you aside and frisk you.

    Assuming, of course, this technology even works. Or how they can magically tell if the person is one of the few in NYC allowed to legally carry or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Solaran_X View Post
    They don't need "stop and frisk" anymore. They're buying gun radar. They won't need stop and frisk when they can unconstitutionally search you without you knowing, and then make up a BS reason to pull you aside and frisk you.

    Assuming, of course, this technology even works. Or how they can magically tell if the person is one of the few in NYC allowed to legally carry or not.

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    Default Re: An end to stop and frisk?

    Quote Originally Posted by mingomom View Post
    "The judge, Shira Scheindlin of Manhattan federal court, ordered an independent monitor to oversee the program. She pointedly did not order an end to the tactic."

    Apparently, she only stopped the profiling aspect.
    Well, it's nice that the early articles about this completely failed to mention that. Ugh.

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