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Thread: Birdshot for home defense
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June 21st, 2013, 02:43 PM #1
Birdshot for home defense
Yes I know this subject has been beat to death, but I found this video to be interesting and will admit I was surprised at how deeply the birdshot penetrated.
He compares the spread of buckshot and birdshot then tests the birdshot out on some meat. A good meal wasted, but the birdshot did considerable damage and I thought was quite telling. The spread testing starts around the 5:45 mark and the meat testing starts around 6:30.
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June 21st, 2013, 02:56 PM #2Super Member
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Re: Birdshot for home defense
I don't care what anyone says. At home defense range, even low brass birdshot will wreck your shit. Granted, I have Federal buck in mine but if it had bird in it, I wouldn't hesitate to use it.
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June 21st, 2013, 03:34 PM #3
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June 21st, 2013, 07:29 PM #4Grand Member
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Re: Birdshot for home defense
Bird shot is decent for skeet shooting, as well. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Teixm6JMw_k
BCM and Glock...for a bigger pile of 'cold dead hands' brass.
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June 21st, 2013, 10:29 PM #5
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June 22nd, 2013, 11:23 PM #6
Re: Birdshot for home defense
I'm so sick of seeing buckshot vs birdshot thread and videos. People on the shotgun world forum talk about this all the time. They want opinions and ask stupid questions when they could just go to the range and do a comparison between the two. Shoot some paper targets and then blow some shit up. That would put all this birdshot for defense nonsense to rest. Ever shoot a jug of water with a FMJ pistol round and then shoot one with a JHP? It's a pretty drastic difference and the same can be said of birdshot and buckshot.
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June 23rd, 2013, 12:14 AM #7
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June 23rd, 2013, 12:49 AM #8
Re: Birdshot for home defense
I give the guy credit, he got ribs and clothing in there. Unless he has really long fingers the depth his fingers were going into the pork shoulder wasn't 4 inches. The problems are if you don't get optimal hits? Two or three inches of penetration isn't really enough to even start someone bleeding heavily with hits in most areas. What if the bad guy has an inch or 2 of fat on him and a winter coat?
That said I agree that birdshot does stack up on itself in close quarters and does more damage than a lot of people acknowledge. Plus especially in a semi auto like he had you can rip off a pair of shots fairly quick with practice. In my mind it's like a .22 sorta. If you catch one you're likely to catch 2 or 3 cause the shooter is going to be able to rip em out quickly.
If you have no other choice, if you're really worried about over penetration birdshot can still make people dead. I think I'd make sure that was my only option before I went that route. Fact is though unless you're really handcuffed there are more effective means out there that should be considered.
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June 23rd, 2013, 12:50 AM #9
Re: Birdshot for home defense
I have actually contemplated this myself.
Birdshot does have some advantages. With the lighter projectiles, I would assume it would dump all of it's energy, or at least a great deal, into a soft target. Buck shot or a slug may over penetrate though.
Would I suggest it for a home defense round? More than likely not. However, my shotgun that stays by the bed is loaded alternating buck, and bird.
I feel it would be effective, and would do considerable damage. Would also be less recoil for smaller framed individuals. I just don't know that I would trust it.I'm so fast, I can bump fire a bolt action.
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Re: Birdshot for home defense
If depending on a 12 gauge as a home defense shotgun...I feed my Bennelli M4 a diet of two 00 Buckshot followed by a rifled slug followed by two rounds of 00 Buckshot and ending with a rifled Slug.
If the shit really hits the fan out comes my Ithaca RoadBlocker Mag 10s...Loaded with Gauge double 00 buck shot that load uses 18 , .32 caliber pellets and will stop any threat.The oracle is in. Age and treachery will always overcome youth and skill!!
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