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    Default Flea market pistols

    Seen a guy at the flea market selling a couple of pistols. He was really trying to push them on me. When I told him that they need to be transfered, he said no, it'll be OK. I said I'm REAL sure that's illegal. He just shrugged and walk over to a different customer. Didn't seem to care.
    Could of been a sting but I don't think so. He was more like a professional junk dealer/seller.
    For the record they were a Iver & Johnston 22 and a H&R top break 32. Neither one is a high dollar weapon.

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    Default Re: Flea market pistols

    As I understand it, don't most handgun sales need to go through an FFL and a PICS check? I was under the impression that handguns can only be transferred without an FFL up and down direct relations (parent to child or vice versa).

    I don't know, since I'm the only member of my family who owns guns. All my handgun purchases have gone through an FFL.
    "When I hit it, I expect it to fall the hell down and die!"

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    Default Re: Flea market pistols

    Quote Originally Posted by brsims View Post
    As I understand it, don't most handgun sales need to go through an FFL and a PICS check? I was under the impression that handguns can only be transferred without an FFL up and down direct relations (parent to child or vice versa).

    I don't know, since I'm the only member of my family who owns guns. All my handgun purchases have gone through an FFL.
    In PA yes that's correct. In most other states, not necessarily. Old timers really seem to be bad with that kind of stuff. I can't even tell you how many times I've seen or heard "grandpa" trying to buy/sell handguns with no transfer. Best to just walk away.

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    I can't even begin to imagine how many firearms are sold that way every single day - with no ill intent - because people simply do not know the laws.
    I called to check my ZIP CODE!....DY-NO-MITE!!!

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    Default Re: Flea market pistols

    If I came across the right gun at the right price at a flea market, I'd offer to drive the guy to an FFL, maybe throw a few extra bucks at him to to help talk him into going as well. As long as they're legally his guns of course. Otherwise, I'd just walk away.

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    Default Re: Flea market pistols

    When I was selling a bursa .380 on another forum, you would be surprised how many people didn't want to go through a ffl, even locals.

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    Default Re: Flea market pistols

    If the handgun is either 50 years and one day old (provable by serial number) or on the C&R list, and you have a class 03 ffl then you can swap your freshly signed 03 and cash for the handgun. No need for any other record other than putting it in your bound book. A copy of, or number of a DL also helps when entering it. The best $10 per year I have ever spent! Dave_n

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    Default Re: Flea market pistols

    If the guns were made before 1898 they don't need to be transferred.
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    Maybe it's the flea market loophole
    If the right/wrong guy comes along he'll be leaving in handcuffs.

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    I once new a man who decided that he would not be buying anymore guns unless the seller would not go through a FFl.
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