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    Default AOW for concealed carry?

    Don't flame me, I'm not actually looking to do this. Just looking for an answer.

    We were wondering last night at work if it would be legal to CC an AOW, this one in particular sparked the debate:

    http://www.serbu.com/top/superShorty.php

    Is it legal to carry in PA?
    Last edited by gdragon; April 10th, 2008 at 09:16 PM.

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    Here is the definition of "firearm" for the purposes of what you can carry with a LTCF
    "Firearm." Any pistol or revolver with a barrel length less
    than 15 inches, any shotgun with a barrel length less than 18
    inches or any rifle with a barrel length less than 16 inches, or
    any pistol, revolver, rifle or shotgun with an overall length of
    less than 26 inches. The barrel length of a firearm shall be
    determined by measuring from the muzzle of the barrel to the
    face of the closed action, bolt or cylinder, whichever is
    applicable.
    Since an AOW is NOT a pistol, SBR, SBS, I am going to say that I think the answer is no.

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    "Firearm." Any pistol or revolver with a barrel length less
    than 15 inches, any shotgun with a barrel length less than 18
    inches or any rifle with a barrel length less than 16 inches, or
    any pistol, revolver, rifle or shotgun with an overall length of
    less than 26 inches.
    The barrel length of a firearm shall be
    determined by measuring from the muzzle of the barrel to the
    face of the closed action, bolt or cylinder, whichever is
    applicable.

    Wouldn't that apply since the weapon in question is 16.5" overall?

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    for $725.00 you could buy two and a hacksaw . . . LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by headcase View Post
    .... or
    any pistol, revolver, rifle or shotgun with an overall length of
    less than 26 inches.
    The barrel length of a firearm shall be
    determined by measuring from the muzzle of the barrel to the
    face of the closed action, bolt or cylinder, whichever is
    applicable.

    Wouldn't that apply since the weapon in question is 16.5" overall?
    Not to my understanding since it says "pistol, revolver, rifle or shotgun w/.....".
    An AOW is none of the above.... it is an "AOW".

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    Default Re: AOW for concealed carry?

    i think you can carry an aow, i carry my pengun. its an aow.. oh im sorry, i open carry it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pa. Patriot View Post
    Not to my understanding since it says "pistol, revolver, rifle or shotgun w/.....".
    An AOW is none of the above.... it is an "AOW".
    Yes, but that shotgun they have on there I think is actually a SBS, not an AWO - I think they have it mislabeled.

    Take a look at it PaP and let me know your opinion - I've been debating this one with my roommate

    I say it's a SBS and needs a $200 tax stamp. He says that it's an AOW per the site.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lildobe View Post
    Yes, but that shotgun they have on there I think is actually a SBS, not an AWO - I think they have it mislabeled.

    Take a look at it PaP and let me know your opinion - I've been debating this one with my roommate

    I say it's a SBS and needs a $200 tax stamp. He says that it's an AOW per the site.
    I'm not sure what your saying.

    That statute says "pistol, revolver, rifle or shotgun"... meeting the under ___ inches (barrel or OAL).
    A SBS and a SBR are "firearms" because they are "rilfes" and "shotguns" with a bbl and/or OAL length within the determining limits.
    An AOW, is NOT a "pistol, revolver, rifle or shotgun", by definition, therefor I don't believe it can be a "firearm" per 6106.

    I could be wrong. But that's the way I'm reading it.

    An SBS and SBR are permissible to carry concealed with an LTCF. I clarify because I was unclear if your post was questioning SBS/SBR's

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    Im gonna keep an eye on this one, as I think that Serbu is just a mean little bastard, and Ive had gumdrop dreams in my head of building my own version. Ballistics of accelerating a slug, or spread patterns of shot be damned, I want a 'pistol' that even 500 Alaskan shooters are scared of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pa. Patriot View Post
    I'm not sure what your saying.

    That statute says "pistol, revolver, rifle or shotgun"... meeting the under ___ inches (barrel or OAL).
    A SBS and a SBR are "firearms" because they are "rilfes" and "shotguns" with a bbl and/or OAL length within the determining limits.
    An AOW, is NOT a "pistol, revolver, rifle or shotgun", by definition, therefor I don't believe it can be a "firearm" per 6106.

    I could be wrong. But that's the way I'm reading it.

    An SBS and SBR are permissible to carry concealed with an LTCF. I clarify because I was unclear if your post was questioning SBS/SBR's
    Sorry - I was wondering more about the NFA classification of that particular weapon. I have a hard time believing that a 12 gauge shotgun with a 6.5" barrel and an overall length of 16" would NOT be classified as a SBS and require the $200 tax stamp.

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