Fourth Circuit on Open Carry

[sprrdhawk44]

http://www.fedagent.com/columns/case...ard-of-seizure

[Carnes]

This could have interesting implications.

[IIIIIREPOIIIII]

Great now were all going to have to CC when they change the laws to combat this!


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[internet troll]

http://www.fedagent.com/columns/case...ard-of-seizure

Good call by the courts. I am pretty much happy with any ruling that goes in favor of citizens as this one did.

[sprrdhawk44]

Great now were all going to have to CC when they change the laws to combat this!


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...Say what?

[Greywolf]

Good case.

Good decision.

[TaePo]

That's exactly how I understand the laws in regards to exercising caution on the side of liberty.

Sure, a felon was able to get away with a firearm. But it's like seatbelt laws, isn't it? They have to have a reason to 'pull you over' (detain) in the first place, eg. RAS/PC of a crime being committed or about to be.

Now, if they spot Black and remember he is a felon from past interactions and Mr. Black is open carrying, he is done. If he continues to carry concealed but never commits a crime (besides being a felon with a firearm, concealing without a license etc.) no harm, no foul. But the day he commits a violation or is in a suspicious situation by design or accident and he is found with a firearm, his goose will be cooked.

A felon with a firearm is more of an added-on charge rather than a preventative one from a law enforcement standpoint. From a criminal's standpoint it could be preventative if they think the risk (or length) of incarceration is not worth being caught with a firearm. But that is only from a personal assessment which will vary by individual and circumstances. It may be worth the risk to them if they live in a proverbial war zone, for example.

Somehow, we have gone from law enforcement to crime prevention in our attitudes to the legislature which leads to a police state.

[rady8um]

Even more disturbing (I'm not surprised though), is that he was considered suspicious because he was too cooperative.

[OwnTheRide]

Even more disturbing (I'm not surprised though), is that he was considered suspicious because he was too cooperative.

That was indeed a pretty interesting (and disturbing) tidbit.

[tlnzz1]

Even more disturbing (I'm not surprised though), is that he was considered suspicious because he was too cooperative.

Well, that's a new one from the pathological liars.