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April 5th, 2008, 09:13 AM #1
Gun Show purchase question
Greetings all,
Just a quick question, I hope noone minds. I'd like to purchase either an SKS or a 12 gauge at the Washington county gun show coming up in a couple of weeks.
My question is this: As a Texas resident in PA for school, do I have the legal right to purchase either?
I do have certain hopefully mitigating factors:
I have a Texas Concealed Carry Permit
I wear my pants around my waist, not my arse
I generally refer to those whom I am not familiar as Sir or Ma'am
And no, I don't expect the last two to help much.
Thanks in advance,
Kirk
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April 5th, 2008, 09:54 AM #2Member
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Re: Gun Show purchase question
Kirk - I don't know, however, since no one has replied, here's an idea:
Call your local gun store. I bet that the requirements for FFL transfers at gun shows are very close to the rules for FFL transfers at your local gun store. Heck, your local gun store might know exactly what someone in your situation needs to prove! Or you could call the show organizers, but they probably won't be as happy about helping you (imagine the # of people who buy guns at any given gun show!).
At the most, I think that you would be asked to show:
-proof of PA residency for more than 90 days (but this might not be required)
-documents proving that you are a US citizen (but I doubt this)
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April 5th, 2008, 12:15 PM #3
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No I don't think you can buy. Seems to me that when my brother and I were in Dunhams in Hbg a few years ago we wanted to buy a few Mosins. All was going according to plan til the gun counterguy found out my bro was not from Pa. The next day he refused to sell two more to me saying he felt like it was gonna be a straw sale since my brother and I were there the day before. But if you are living here for school that may be a different story. You can always just call a local gun store to find out though.
Good lulck.
Dave3%
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April 5th, 2008, 12:16 PM #4Super Member
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Re: Gun Show purchase question
Im not always right, but im almost sure that resedency does not matter when purchasing longguns. Then again I could be wrong, ive been wrong before, and im sure it will happen again.
as a pa resident i have purchased long guns out of state. now for a handgun you have to have it sent to your resident state to a ffl holder, by a ffl holder.
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April 5th, 2008, 07:08 PM #5
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Long ago.wWhen I lived in NJ, I had no problems purchasing long guns in Delaware or Pennsylvania.
Is there a difference if it is not a border state? I vaguely remember hearing something about that.
Any of our resident FFL's about that can chime in and clear this up?"Disperse you Rebels! Damn you! Throw down your Arms and Disperse!" British Major Pitcairn at Lexington April 19, 1775
"Sometimes reasonable men must do unreasonable things" Marvin Heemeyer
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April 5th, 2008, 07:40 PM #6
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Does not have to be a border state anymore. Long arms (rifle/shotgun) can be bought with no trouble. You will still have to undergo the background check and the FFL should know that he will have to go to an operator to do the check. Have something that shows you are a resident student and that should help. Having the TX concealed permit could hurt.
Ron USAF Ret E-8 FFL01/SOT3 NRA Benefactor Member
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April 5th, 2008, 07:45 PM #7
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now I'm curious- how does a Texas Concealed carry permit hurt?
I appreciate all the responses, though, thank you gentlemen.
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April 5th, 2008, 07:47 PM #8Super Member
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Re: Gun Show purchase question
your tryign to prove pa resedency a texas resident permit might mess that one up, at least thats what i get.
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April 5th, 2008, 09:22 PM #9
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It's up to the gun seller as to whether he wants to sell it or not.
You might have legal issues purchasing handguns out of state, but not long guns.
With long guns, you go through the NICS/PICS process, and it's the same as if you were a PA resident. At the Harrisburg gun show at the end of last year, the guy in front of me in line was a Michigan resident and bought a long gun with no problem, though the gun dealer made sure to check a book with Michigan gun laws to make sure he wasn't selling the guy a gun that was illegal to own in his home state... though this is probably only an issue for residents of states that have AWBs and hi-cap bans.
IANAL, but it's my understanding that there's no need to even prove residency. But the decision as to whether or not to sell you the gun will be made by the dealer, and it's his/her personal choice.Safety is a good tool for tyrants; no one can be against safety.
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April 6th, 2008, 07:27 PM #10
Re: Gun Show purchase question
I actually meant to say that the Texas permit wouldn't (missed the n't) necessarily hurt as it may help show the dealer that you have probably already passed background checks, etc. in Texas. As said in the previous posts it is really up to the dealer. If he doesn't want to sell to an out of stater, that is his perogitive. If he doesn't want to sell, don't argue, it could make someone wonder why you are making a big deal about it and they could contact the local police or even the BATFE. If refused, just say thank you and go to the next dealer.
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