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    Default PA reciprocity vs. Classes for conceal carry permits

    Hopefully, someone can help me understand this. Apparently, there is an outfit going around promoting a class that allows students to obtain a Utah and/or Arizona concealed firearms permit, which, according to them, "This powerful combination will allow you to carry a firearm in up to 37 different states including OH, PA, WV, DE, VA, etc."

    http://www.mylegalheat.com/classes/c/

    How is this any different than the reciprocity agreement that PA already has with numerous states, as found here?

    http://www.pafoa.org/law/carrying-fi...ry/reciprocity

    The class costs $75.00 and is four hours long. Just what exactly are you getting out of this class that you aren't getting out of a PA reciprocity agreement?

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    Default Re: PA reciprocity vs. Classes for conceal carry permits

    PA does not have reciprocity with some states. Getting another state's license/permit can allow you to carry in some of those other states...if non-resident licenses are accepted in that certain state.

    For example, PA and OH do not have reciprocity, but I have a WA license that allows me to carry in OH as WA and OH do have reciprocity.

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    Default Re: PA reciprocity vs. Classes for conceal carry permits

    The permits/licenses of the States mentioned are more widely accepted. It has much to do with the fact that these States having a minimum training class requirement, such as the one you posted. PA has no such requirement and therefore is not as widely accepted.

    Be safe (and widely accepted).

    Scott

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    Default Re: PA reciprocity vs. Classes for conceal carry permits

    Quote Originally Posted by Fossil4Life View Post
    Hopefully, someone can help me understand this. Apparently, there is an outfit going around promoting a class that allows students to obtain a Utah and/or Arizona concealed firearms permit, which, according to them, "This powerful combination will allow you to carry a firearm in up to 37 different states including OH, PA, WV, DE, VA, etc."

    http://www.mylegalheat.com/classes/c/

    How is this any different than the reciprocity agreement that PA already has with numerous states, as found here?

    http://www.pafoa.org/law/carrying-fi...ry/reciprocity

    The class costs $75.00 and is four hours long. Just what exactly are you getting out of this class that you aren't getting out of a PA reciprocity agreement?
    Substantially fewer than 37 states have reciprocity with PA. The idea is that you'll have more options with the the UT/AZ combo.

    For me personally such a class would be almost worthless since the foreign territory I visit most often (MD, NJ, NY) don't recognize those permits either, but for some folks I'm sure it has value.
    I am not a lawyer. Nothing I say or write is legal advice.

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    Default Re: PA reciprocity vs. Classes for conceal carry permits

    I see, thanks for the info. Would obtaining a Florida permit be better than getting the AZ/UT permit or would you guys get that combo too?

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    Default Re: PA reciprocity vs. Classes for conceal carry permits

    Quote Originally Posted by Fossil4Life View Post
    I see, thanks for the info. Would obtaining a Florida permit be better than getting the AZ/UT permit or would you guys get that combo too?
    Go here and select license combos to see what it gets you:

    http://www.handgunlaw.us/LicMaps/ccwmap.php

    Note the sentence under the map about certain states not accepting non-resident licenses. Also, I believe Ohio does not accept a non-resident Arizona license.

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    Default Re: PA reciprocity vs. Classes for conceal carry permits

    Quote Originally Posted by Fossil4Life View Post
    I see, thanks for the info. Would obtaining a Florida permit be better than getting the AZ/UT permit or would you guys get that combo too?
    That's no longer an option.

    http://forum.pafoa.org/pennsylvania-...-loophole.html

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    Default Re: PA reciprocity vs. Classes for conceal carry permits

    Quote Originally Posted by Sparks View Post

    Not entirely correct. PA resident can still get a FL permit...for use in other states. Just can't use a FL permit in lieu of a PA LTCF in PA.

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    Default Re: PA reciprocity vs. Classes for conceal carry permits

    The only state that I would consider a benefit would be Ohio since I have family there and I wouldn't mind taking the girls to some of the attractions in Ohio, but for $75 I'll just keep my dollars here and in W.Va.

    I don't spend my money in states that could care less if I get shot there.

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    Default Re: PA reciprocity vs. Classes for conceal carry permits

    Quote Originally Posted by mrjam2jab View Post
    Not entirely correct. PA resident can still get a FL permit...for use in other states. Just can't use a FL permit in lieu of a PA LTCF in PA.
    Thank God, I have my PA LTCF, but my wife just applied for her Florida LTCF in December. I'd hate to tell her a fellow woman just stabbed her in the back.

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