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    Default Re: SBR'd AR15 - a brief guide and my experience

    Couple questions:


    I am planning on SBR'ing an M92 pistol made in the Zastava factory in Serbia. It was imported to the US by Century Arms Intl. in Georgia, VT. What do I list as the original manufacturer?






    Must you include your FULL legal name on the form and engraving? For instance, it's been determined that Johnathan Anthony Doe would NOT be allowed to engrave J. A. Doe or John A. Doe. Would John Doe be acceptable if uniform on both the form and receiver?


    Also, is it acceptable to have the firearm engraved in front of the mag well on the lower portion of the receiver? This will not be obscured by anything so it *seems* fine to me...just want clarification before I commit to engraving.

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    Default Re: SBR'd AR15 - a brief guide and my experience

    Section 4a:
    Fill in the original manufacture here.

    Zastava Arms
    Kragujevac, Serbia

    Section 4h:
    Fill in the importer information here.

    Century Arms Intl. in Georgia, VT


    It must be engraved exactly like your name is/will be written on your Form 1 application.
    Yes you can engrave in front of the mag well.
    I like AKs engraved around the mag well, it is less noticeable. There is plenty of room between the edge of the receiver and the mag well opening.
    -Look at the AK from right side/charging handle side.
    -Roll the AK 90* away from you so you are looking at the bottom of the receiver and the mag well.
    -Engrave First Name Last Name above the mag well
    -Engrave City, State below the mag well.
    Last edited by Nate7667; February 26th, 2013 at 09:05 AM.
    HGW, llc ~ Title 1 & NFA sales/manufacturing ~ Transfers - Title 1 $20 - NFA $50

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    Default Re: SBR'd AR15 - a brief guide and my experience

    Nate got it all covered, thanks buddy
    Quote Originally Posted by GunLawyer001 View Post
    Buy a silencer.

    Tax: $200
    Cost of effective 5.56 suppressor: $500
    Letting the elderly neighbors sleep in until morning: Priceless.

    "132 and Bush I've got him at gun point, OK gun point, 132 and bush, cover is code 3"

    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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    Default Re: SBR'd AR15 - a brief guide and my experience

    What are the marking requirements for a trust?

    Just "XXX REVOCABLE TRUST" and nothing more correct?



    1 - F 5330.20 - Certificate of Compliance With 18 U.S.C. 922(g)(5)(B)

    Not required for a trust correct?

    For I don't recall filling these out when I did my form fours.



    2 - F 1 (5320.1) - Application to Make and Register a Firearm

    Two copies even for a trust correct?



    Last time I submitted anything to the NFA people was back in 2010 and my memory isn't that great. =/

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    Default Re: SBR'd AR15 - a brief guide and my experience

    Quote Originally Posted by thorazine View Post
    What are the marking requirements for a trust?

    Just "XXX REVOCABLE TRUST" and nothing more correct?
    Full trust name, no abbreviations as well as city/state

    Quote Originally Posted by thorazine View Post
    1 - F 5330.20 - Certificate of Compliance With 18 U.S.C. 922(g)(5)(B)

    Not required for a trust correct?

    For I don't recall filling these out when I did my form fours.
    I've read varying accounts, better safe than sorry, if they don't want it they can just file drawer 13 it.

    Quote Originally Posted by thorazine View Post
    2 - F 1 (5320.1) - Application to Make and Register a Firearm

    Two copies even for a trust correct?
    Yes 2 copies, they keep one, they send one back.
    Quote Originally Posted by GunLawyer001 View Post
    Buy a silencer.

    Tax: $200
    Cost of effective 5.56 suppressor: $500
    Letting the elderly neighbors sleep in until morning: Priceless.

    "132 and Bush I've got him at gun point, OK gun point, 132 and bush, cover is code 3"

    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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    Default Re: SBR'd AR15 - a brief guide and my experience

    Quote Originally Posted by ithinkimamedic View Post
    Full trust name, no abbreviations as well as city/state
    The city and state where and when the trust was established or your current location?

    What happens when you move?

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    Default Re: SBR'd AR15 - a brief guide and my experience

    I'm not well versed in the whole trust thing but my understanding is that it would be the city/state that you are "building" the NFA item in.

    I guess it poses the question of when you move do you need to update your trust? If you do that would reflect the same location as the "building" location.

    When you move you can sent the BATFE NFA branch a letter indicating the move though generally (as my understanding) that is only done when moving to a different state, I could be wrong though.
    Quote Originally Posted by GunLawyer001 View Post
    Buy a silencer.

    Tax: $200
    Cost of effective 5.56 suppressor: $500
    Letting the elderly neighbors sleep in until morning: Priceless.

    "132 and Bush I've got him at gun point, OK gun point, 132 and bush, cover is code 3"

    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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    Default Re: SBR'd AR15 - a brief guide and my experience

    Quote Originally Posted by ithinkimamedic View Post
    When you move you can sent the BATFE NFA branch a letter indicating the move though generally (as my understanding) that is only done when moving to a different state, I could be wrong though.
    Wasn't required in my case since I only possess suppressors.

    However an amendment to the trust was filed.

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    Default Re: SBR'd AR15 - a brief guide and my experience

    Am I in trouble? I currently have two complete AR15's I purchased at gun stores, all paperwork, ect was done at time of purchase. I recently ordered online a 11.5" upper reciever which is being shipped UPS to my house. I HAVE NOT filled out any paperwork yet. Once I recieve the 11.5" upper am I in violation of any laws? My intent is to pin this new 11.5" upper to an existing lower for plinking targets. I've read JayBells SBR'd AR15 and other posts but am still confused. Any advice is appreciated. Thanks.

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    Default Re: SBR'd AR15 - a brief guide and my experience

    Quote Originally Posted by Gunownr View Post
    Am I in trouble? I currently have two complete AR15's I purchased at gun stores, all paperwork, ect was done at time of purchase. I recently ordered online a 11.5" upper reciever which is being shipped UPS to my house. I HAVE NOT filled out any paperwork yet. Once I recieve the 11.5" upper am I in violation of any laws? My intent is to pin this new 11.5" upper to an existing lower for plinking targets. I've read JayBells SBR'd AR15 and other posts but am still confused. Any advice is appreciated. Thanks.

    Are you replacing the stock on the existing lower with a pistol buffer tube or are you pinning a 5.5" flash suppressor/comp on the end of the barrel?

    Technically having all the parts to assemble a SBR and not having the completed paperwork is 'constructive intent' and is no-no.

    If your intent is to leave a stock on a lower you need to get the paperwork done, send it in with your $200 check, wait 6-8 months, and then hopefully recieve your approved stamp in return, then you are GTG.

    IANAL

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