What you’ll see in the rebellion

[dilligaf]

Let me explain, gun grabbers, how your confiscatory fantasy plays out. Let us imagine for a moment that a sweeping gun control bill similar to the one currently suggested is passed by the House and Senate, and signed into law by a contemptuous President.

Perhaps 50-100 million firearms currently owned by law-abiding citizens will become contraband with the stroke of a pen. Citizens will either register their firearms, or turn them in to agents of the federal government, or risk becoming criminals themselves. Faced with this choice, millions will indeed register their arms. Perhaps as many will claim they’ve sold their arms, or had them stolen. Suppose that as many as 200-250 million weapons of other types will go unregistered.

Tens of millions of Americans will refuse to comply with an order that is clearly a violation of the explicit intent of the Second Amendment. Among the most ardent opposing these measures will be military veterans, active duty servicemen, and local law enforcement officers. Many of these individuals will refuse to carry out what they view as Constitutionally illegal orders. Perhaps 40-50 million citizens will view such a law as treason. Perhaps ten percent of those, 4-5 million, would support a rebellion in some way, and maybe 40,000-100,000 Americans will form small independently-functioning active resistance cells, or become lone-wolves.

They will be leaderless, stateless, difficult to track, and considering the number of military veterans that would likely be among their number, extremely skilled at sabotage, assassination, and ambush.

After a number of carefully-planned, highly-publicized, and successful raids by the government, one or more will invariably end “badly.” Whether innocents are gunned down, a city block is burned to ash, or especially fierce resistance leads to a disastrously failed raid doesn’t particularly matter. What matters is that when illusion of the government’s invincibility and infallibility is broken, the hunters will become the hunted.

Unnamed citizens and federal agents will be the first to die, and they will die by the dozens and maybe hundreds, but famous politicians will soon join them in a spate of revenge killings, many of which will go unsolved.

Ironically, while the gun grab was intended to keep citizens from preserving their liberties with medium-powered weapons, it completely ignored the longer-ranged rifles perfect for shooting at ranges far beyond what a security detail can protect, and suppressed .22LR weapons proven deadly in urban sniping in Europe and Asia.

While the Secret Service will be able to protect the President in the White House, he will not dare leave his gilded cage except in carefully controlled circumstances. Even then he will be forced to move like a criminal. He will never be seen outdoors in public again. Not in this country.

The 535 members of the House and Senate in both parties that allowed such a law to pass would largely be on their own; the Secret Service is too small to protect all of them and their families, the Capitol Police too unskilled, and competent private security not particularly interested in working against their own best interests at any price. The elites will be steadily whittled down, and if they can not be reached directly, the targets will become their staffers, spouses, children, and grandchildren. Grandstanding media figures loyal to the regime would die in droves, executed as enemies of the Republic.

You can expect congressional staffs to disintegrate with just a few shootings, and expect elected officials themselves to resign well before a quarter of their number are eliminated, leaving us with a boxed-in executive, his cabinet loyalists trapped in the same win, die, or flee the country circumstance, military regime loyalists, and whatever State Governors who desire to risk their necks as well.

Here, the President will doubtlessly order the activation of National Guard units and the regular military to impose martial law, setting the largest and most powerful military in the world against its own people. Unfortunately, the tighter the President clinches his tyrannical fist, the more rebels he makes.

Military commands and federal agencies will be whittled down as servicemen and agents will desert or defect. Some may leave as individuals, others may join the Rebellion in squad and larger-sized units with all their weapons, tactics, skills, and insider intelligence. The regime will be unable to trust its own people, and because they cannot trust them, they will lose more in a vicious cycle of collapse.

Some of these defectors will be true “operators,” with the skills and background to turn ragtag militia cells into the kind of forces that decimate loyalist troops, allowing them no rest and no respite, striking them when they are away from their most potent weapons. Military vehicles are formidable, but they are thirsty beasts, in terms of fuel, ammo, time, and maintenance. Tanks and bombers are formidable only when they have gas, guns, and can be maintained. In a war without a front, logistics are incredibly easy to destroy, and mechanics and supply clerks are not particularly adept at defending themselves.

Eventually, the government will turn upon itself. The President will be captured or perhaps killed by his own protectors. A dictatorship will form in the vacuum.

If we’re lucky, the United States of America, or whatever amalgam results, will again try to rebuild. If we’re very lucky, the victors will reinstate the Constitution as the law of the land. Just as likely though, we’ll face fractious civil wars fought over issues we’ve not begun to fathom, and a much diminished state or states will result, perhaps guided by foreign interests.

It will not be pretty. There will be no “winners,” and perhaps hundreds of thousands to millions of dead.

Yet, this is the future we face if the power-mad among us are not soundly defeated at the ballot box before they affect more “change” than we, the People, are willing to surrender to would-be tyrants.


http://www.bob-owens.com/2012/12/wha...omment-page-1/

[dilligaf]

Does anyone see a connection between the billion or so rounds of ammo ordered up by the DHS, the plastic coffins, fema internment camps etc and possible new gun legislation and/or the impending economic collapse?

[cdi]

In a word, no.
I DO see that you are helping keep the stock of Reynolds Wrap healthy, though.

Keep up the good work.

[IGPJAP]

Does anyone see a connection between the billion or so rounds of ammo ordered up by the DHS, the plastic coffins, fema internment camps etc and possible new gun legislation and/or the impending economic collapse?

Hold on, let me get my tin foil hat. I thought I only need it for ShooterInPA1 threads.

[ungawa]

I think we need to gloss over that part.

Let's say we take control of government and put all these criminals up against the wall.

What is the plan for restoring The Constitution, Liberty, and Rule of Law to our Country and Nation? We have 80 years of BS political Supreme Court politicians ruling us towards Communism with no respect given to The Constitution or the Laws. Even the people we decide not to send to the gallows don't know how to operate a federal government legally. The Military needs to be kept in the loop and comforted. Not because I am afraid of them, but because we can restore the Country more easily with them and would basically have to start over without them.

So, let's get passed the dirty part of taking all these people custody and trying them for their crimes. I think we need to pretend it's Day 0, how are we going to restore this Country? If we can come up with that vision, and that plan, then the rest becomes more palatable.

[CHEMICAL]

What is the plan for restoring The Constitution, Liberty, and Rule of Law to our Country and Nation?

The same plan that destroyed it. The stroke of a pen, E.O., veto..whatever.

[B.A.]

Good luck with your revolution let me know how we'll the secondary invasion of euro/UN, North Korean and terrorist troops works out because ill be so back up in the woods no one will find me.

[newman attack]

Good luck with your revolution let me know how we'll the secondary invasion of euro/UN, North Korean and terrorist troops works out because ill be so back up in the woods no one will find me.

I'm pretty sure everybody's seen Red Dawn by now, they'll look there too!


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[tsafa]

When they start raiding houses some people will start shooting. Sure the govt agents will kill them all, but that will piss more people off to resist... they govt will kill them too. There will be a few big stand off's where they will have to bring in the army too.

Eventually some govt agents will start to think that this is not the right thing to do.

The army will start to fraction into those who want to kill the people in order to preserve govt supremacy and those who want to save the people. This will lead to an all out civil war lead by the military fighting itself. After a few years, they won't even remember how the war started.

The only satisfaction is all this is that the cowards who started all this in the first place will not be spared any violence. The civil war will be in both their front yard and back yard.

[luckyned7]

Oh man, Lets not go there. I'll never be a conspiracy dude. I'm just such a pessimist! My bud is a serious conspiracy man that I have a hard time supplying facts and to what end. He'll never listen. The truth is..and I really don't wanna talk..black helos and all...this world and country is turning really squirrely. It wouldn't be red dawn at all! It would be a slow turn of politics and early training until we alll are eating green cheese. :P
Seriously-I'm running scared but I'm 50 and can't run far! Screw it. I never wanted to raise kids in a place like this has become but I'm not throwing out my kids! I'll fight to change the world for the better as long as I can. I still watch Jimmy Steward's Wonderful Life. I'm not giving anyone my 2nd! BTW: I love my country!