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[DukeConnor]

100 yard minimum for fmj rifle is the usual recomendation.

[sota]

1) you shouldn't shoot steel that close
2) frangible ammo might be a better choice than lead or FMJ.

[HKusp 45]

Having trouble finding the complete p80 Glock kit pf940cl. The 19 frame and 17 slide. Any leads before I order the plain old 19 kit?

you won't find a kit they discontinued the CL Midway USA is the only place that has them as they bought out the inventory , They used to be $75.00 now they bumped them back to MAP pricing of $149.99 if Hodgies giving you a deal take it .... Or I might lol

[fallenleader]

The biggest difference is if copper jackets are sharp and cut you when you get hit by one. lead just feels like someone through a small rock at you.

i've been hit with lead splatter,(it wasn't mine) this is accurate. (maybe not always)
even when a target is angled, you may still catch some flak.
i see the main benefit to shooting steel as hitting the target at range and not having to scope the target, bring an expensive camera system or having to hike downrange to check the pattern.
throw up the steel and if you "ping" or see it swinging you clearly hit your 3" - 8" target at desired distance. so if it is close enough to see your holes, no reason to shoot steel.

as for a deal, i bought mine a few years ago from here.
https://www.ebay.com/usr/hdsteeltargets

[HSMaxim]

100 yard minimum for fmj rifle is the usual recomendation.

1) you shouldn't shoot steel that close
2) frangible ammo might be a better choice than lead or FMJ.

i've been hit with lead splatter,(it wasn't mine) this is accurate. (maybe not always)
even when a target is angled, you may still catch some flak.
i see the main benefit to shooting steel as hitting the target at range and not having to scope the target, bring an expensive camera system or having to hike downrange to check the pattern.
throw up the steel and if you "ping" or see it swinging you clearly hit your 3" - 8" target at desired distance. so if it is close enough to see your holes, no reason to shoot steel.

as for a deal, i bought mine a few years ago from here.
https://www.ebay.com/usr/hdsteeltargets

You fellas ought to have a talk with IPSC and USPSA...

23' is the minimum for steel at USPSA.
The question asked was about handguns and handgun caliber rifles, either would be safe at 17 yards.

As for no need to shoot steel, not everyone wants to shoot holes in paper for groups...

This place never changes.

[Bang]

Thanks for the responses. Still not answered....difference between plated lead and unplated lead acting upon a steel target. Plated lead as in Berry's plated bullets. Bullets meant not to exceed 1200 fps have copper plating measuring in the thousandths.

[GOYABEAN]

Thanks for the responses. Still not answered....difference between plated lead and unplated lead acting upon a steel target. Plated lead as in Berry's plated bullets. Bullets meant not to exceed 1200 fps have copper plating measuring in the thousandths.

Maybe this could help !

[Hodgie]

The best LPK for home builds in my opinion.

$54.99

https://www.primaryarms.com/cmmg-com...ment-Message-2

[Emptymag]

The best LPK for home builds in my opinion.

$54.99

https://www.primaryarms.com/cmmg-com...ment-Message-2

Global Ordnance (the cheap mags a few GPS back) has the CMMG LPK minus fire control group for about $35
On phone. Hard to look up and link.

[Tin Soldier]

Maybe this could help !

Awesome video. What an amazing guy.