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    Wink Gun enthusiasts pack shows to buy AR-15's (Allentown gun show mentioned)

    Gun enthusiasts thronged to shows around the country on Saturday to buy assault weapons they fear will soon be outlawed after a massacre of school children in Connecticut prompted calls for tighter controls on firearms.

    Reuters reporters went to gun shows in Pennsylvania, Missouri and Texas, and found long lines to get in the door, crowds around the dealer booths, a rush to buy assault weapons even at higher prices and some dealers selling out.

    The busiest table at the R.K. Gun & Knife show at an exposition center near the Kansas City, Missouri airport was offering assault weapons near the entrance.

    West Plains, Missouri dealer Keith's Guns sold out of about 20 AR-15 style assault rifles in a little over an hour, owner Keith Gray said.

    An AR-15 type assault weapon was among the guns authorities believe suspect Adam Lanza stole from his mother to use in the massacre of 20 school children and six adults at a Newtown, Connecticut elementary school on December 14.

    The killing of innocent children at the school shocked the nation and prompted a number of politicians including President Barack Obama to call for a ban on assault weapons and ammunition clips that allow the rapid firing of multiple bullets.

    Rather than tighten gun ownership restrictions, the powerful lobby for gun rights, the National Rifle Association, on Friday called for armed guards at every school.

    D.R. Woody was one of those able to purchase an assault weapon at the Kansas City show on Saturday. He bought the gun for target practice because he is concerned they soon will be banned. "I didn't expect to find one. No gun stores have them," said Woody of the AR-15 type of gun.

    RUSH TO BUY

    The story was the same in Allentown, Pennsylvania, where Shirley Donley, a gun shop owner from nearby Quakertown, had an endless stream of customers. "Everybody wants assault weapons," she said, adding that she had sold more than 100 of that type of gun since the Connecticut tragedy. "I'm sold out."

    Assault weapon is a broad term commonly used to refer to semi-automatic or automatic weapons that can fire multiple bullets rapidly. From 1994 to 2004 certain assault weapons and ammunition clips of more than 10 bullets were illegal.

    The ban was allowed to expire when Republican George W. Bush was in the White House.

    Prices for assault weapons have surged since the Connecticut shooting. At the Kansas City show, Jerome Ratliff bought an AR-15 on Saturday for target practice, paying $925. The same model would have cost only about $400 a year ago, he said. Most models were selling for $1,500 or more.

    Bob Hofmeister, whose wife owns Xtreme Sports, a gun dealer with a table at the Kansas city show, said the business sold 15 to 20 AR-15s in the past week.

    "Some of these people just want to show their rights to own guns," Hofmeister said.

    The Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution guarantees the right to bear arms, and most gun enthusiasts at the shows on Saturday said more restrictions on guns would not stop mass killings such as Connecticut.

    Adam Ouart of Mansfield, Texas stood in a line with about another dozen people at the Lone Star show in Forth Worth, Texas, in hopes of buying a gun.

    "The answer is not to limit people having guns. If someone wants to hurt somebody they are going to find a way to do it," Ouart said.

    Several dealers and buyers interviewed at the shows supported the NRA proposal to put armed guards in schools.

    More than 200 people lined up at each of three entrances on Saturday morning to pay the $8 entrance fee to the Will Rogers Memorial Center in Fort Worth, which has an exhibit hall spanning 25 acres. They crowded the aisles of the show and stood two-deep at booths for assault weapons and ammunition clips.

    At all three shows the attendees were overwhelmingly white men, with some women and very few ethnic minorities.

    GUN SHOW 'LOOPHOLE'

    Thousands of guns shows are held in the United States every year. Under federal law, licensed dealers must conduct a background check before selling to a buyer at a gun show.

    But in what critics call a "loophole," which some gun control advocates hope to close, unlicensed collectors and other private sales do not require a background check.

    A 2009 undercover investigation at seven gun shows by the city of New York found that 63 percent of sellers failed an "integrity" test by selling a weapon to a buyer who admitted he probably could not pass a background check.

    Pennsylvania dealer Donley said on Saturday that since the Connecticut shooting the telephone wait for dealers to get through to the State Police unit that provides background checks has increased from 15 minutes up to 45 minutes.

    While most people interviewed at the shows were not in favor of gun controls, not everyone opposed some regulation.

    Bruce Abernathy walked away with an assault rifle after sitting through a 30-minute background check at the Texas show.

    "There should be more strict background checks," said Abernathy, a Dallas resident. He said there should be a 30-day waiting period to buy weapons and a thorough background check that includes five references. (Additional reporting by Jon Nielsen in Fort Worth, Texas; Writing by Greg McCune; Editing by Todd Eastham)

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...8BL0DP20121222

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    5 references? WTF? Where the hell is that in the 2A?

    Someone should take away that clown's AR.
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    Default Re: Gun enthusiasts pack shows to buy AR-15's (Allentown gun show mentioned)

    This is so full of fail, it hurts:
    "There should be more strict background checks," said Abernathy, a Dallas resident. He said there should be a 30-day waiting period to buy weapons and a thorough background check that includes five references.

    I was at the Allentown show today. I was there at 8am (show opened at 9) and the line was already almost out the door. It was pretty slim pickins when it came to black rifles, and the ones they DID have had price tags scratched out. I was hearing $2500+ quoted for some of the Stag and Colt AR's. And they were still selling like hotcakes at THAT price.

    I picked up a nice AK for way WAY less than that, but the price on that was still $200-$300 more than they typically go for, but still not as crazy high as the AR's.
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    Default Re: Gun enthusiasts pack shows to buy AR-15's (Allentown gun show mentioned)

    Quote Originally Posted by ShooterInPA1 View Post

    At all three shows the attendees were overwhelmingly white men, with some women and very few ethnic minorities.
    This is non-sense. I know quite a few Latinos and fair complected African African Americans who look "white". I know quite a few "white" people who look "Latino" - I shave one most every morning.

    This is a "racial angle" meant to show that "white America fears a righteous African American who is determined to sets things aright".

    In reality people, all sorts of people, are "getting while the getting is good".
    Last edited by GeneCC; December 25th, 2012 at 01:18 AM.

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    Default Re: Gun enthusiasts pack shows to buy AR-15's (Allentown gun show mentioned)

    What complete AR15 rifle sold for $400 last year?? Maybe a S&W M&P15 22 lr, maybe???

    And Shirley Donley, who probably has her name on the shop license for who knows what reason, obviously doesn't know that the guns she sold weren't assault weapons. Jesus, if dealers can't it right, how the hell is Washington supposed to???
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    Default Re: Gun enthusiasts pack shows to buy AR-15's (Allentown gun show mentioned)

    As usual, the typical liberal buzz words couldn't be avoided. "innocent children"-what other kind of children are there? "Republican" George Bush. Not necessary to mention that George Bush was republican. If you don't know that, you probably can't read anyway. I wish people would explain the "gun show loophole" in articles like this (you know, journalistic integrity and all that). It doesn't apply in every state, and only applies to long guns in Pennsylvania.

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    Default Re: Gun enthusiasts pack shows to buy AR-15's (Allentown gun show mentioned)

    Quote Originally Posted by joseywales View Post
    What complete AR15 rifle sold for $400 last year?? Maybe a S&W M&P15 22 lr, maybe???

    And Shirley Donley, who probably has her name on the shop license for who knows what reason, obviously doesn't know that the guns she sold weren't assault weapons. Jesus, if dealers can't it right, how the hell is Washington supposed to???
    There was a thread that mentioned her a few months back. She spouted some stupid shit then as well. Either she chooses not to articulate in her explanations, or is one of those who has a gun store to sell rifles to hunters, and puts up with the other stuff because it makes her money.

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    Default Re: Gun enthusiasts pack shows to buy AR-15's (Allentown gun show mentioned)

    Good work everyone. Keep buying them. The more we get out there in the hands of the public, the harder it will be to ban.

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    Default Re: Gun enthusiasts pack shows to buy AR-15's (Allentown gun show mentioned)

    Quote Originally Posted by tsafa View Post
    Good work everyone. Keep buying them. The more we get out there in the hands of the public, the harder it will be to ban.
    Not just guns.....ammo and accessories too. If the numbers are big enough, those in DC cannot ignore them.
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