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    Default NO RIFLE WAS USED AT SANDY....

    Good luck finding this on the internet....

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?client=...=fb&nomobile=1
    Last edited by Rider4Life01; December 21st, 2012 at 08:48 AM.

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    Default Re: NO RIFLE WAS USED AT SANDY....

    Quote Originally Posted by Rider4Life01 View Post
    Goof luck finding this on the internet....

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?client=...=fb&nomobile=1
    That looks more like a Remington 1100 with a pistol grip stock.

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    Default Re: NO RIFLE WAS USED AT SANDY....

    Quote Originally Posted by ViperHummel View Post
    That looks more like a Remington 1100 with a pistol grip stock.
    The forend looks like a saiga

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    Default Re: NO RIFLE WAS USED AT SANDY....

    whatever it is its not an ar-15 with that side charging handle.

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    Default Re: NO RIFLE WAS USED AT SANDY....

    Looks like the guy is racking the charging handle on the right side as apose to the rear charging handle of an ar. As much as I'd like a juicy conspiracy, I'm gonna have to go with it was the saiga.

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    Default Re: NO RIFLE WAS USED AT SANDY....

    How can we verify this?
    We must all hang together, or assuredly we shall all hang separately.-Benjamin Franklin

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    Default Re: NO RIFLE WAS USED AT SANDY....

    According to the comments there are several things in the video that are suspect.

    1. Why would the rifle have been removed at night? Implies that this video segment has nothing to do with Sandy Creek.

    2. Is that the correct ME talking about the correct case?

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    Default Re: NO RIFLE WAS USED AT SANDY....

    I find it interesting but not conclusive to the facts at hand; but in the video where the police and one possibly white lab coated tech clear the weapon from the back of the car, someone near the camera (in a helicopter or at the news desk) says very faintly, "Looks like an assault rifle, doesn't it."

    The rifle might not have been found until after dark though I doubt it would take them that long to ID the suspects car and search it. Or did they still need a warrant to do so? Was there not enough exigent circumstance? IANAL so I honestly don't know.

    As to the ME: Is it possible the 'rifle' was chambered in same caliber as one or more of the pistols, such as 9mm? In this case, the ME could only assume a long rifle if the damage seemed greater as a longer barrel would build up more energy/velocity than a shorter one. But that would be less than scientific. A match would need to be made by an errant round or one that was not too deformed to a test firing. The only real way the ME could say definitively that it was the rifle, is if the calibers differed from the pistols altogether.

    We need to know the cite for the videos.
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    Default Re: NO RIFLE WAS USED AT SANDY....

    Quote Originally Posted by Rider4Life01 View Post
    Good luck finding this on the internet....

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?client=...=fb&nomobile=1
    Yes good luck finding conspiracy theories on the Internet, oh wait what do you have right there?

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    Default Re: NO RIFLE WAS USED AT SANDY....

    Quote Originally Posted by Philbert View Post
    Yes good luck finding conspiracy theories on the Internet, oh wait what do you have right there?
    Sorry about that, that was meant to mean articles, quotes, better info than youtube of a news report.... I searched for anything concrete before posting the video and could not find anything...

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