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December 11th, 2012, 02:58 PM #1Junior Member
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Court strikes down Illinois concealed carry law
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http://www.seattlepi.com/news/us/art...aw-4108504.php
SPRINGFIELD, Ill. (AP) — In a big victory for gun rights advocates, a federal appeals court on Tuesday struck down a ban on carrying concealed weapons in Illinois — the only remaining state where carrying concealed weapons is entirely illegal.
The 7th Circuit Court of Appeals said state lawmakers have 180 days to write a new law that legalizes concealed carry.
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December 11th, 2012, 03:09 PM #2
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hah! Suck on that, Chicago!
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December 11th, 2012, 03:13 PM #3
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Prepare for the $1000.00 application fee.
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December 11th, 2012, 03:15 PM #4Banned
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December 11th, 2012, 03:16 PM #5
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Here's the court's ruling (no need to search for it). I haven't read the entire 47-page document, but it does have an occasional "anti" jab from the judge ("most states sensibly require training before.....", or something like that), but is also filled with numerous, sometimes sarcastic jabs at Illinois.
http://www.ca7.uscourts.gov/tmp/NY0OGSA9.pdf
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December 11th, 2012, 03:27 PM #6Member
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Re: Court strikes down Illinois concealed carry law
This:
"The Supreme Court has decided that the amendment confers a right to bear arms for self-defense, which is as important outside the home as inside," Judge Richard Posner wrote in the court's majority opinion. "The theoretical and empirical evidence (which overall is inconclusive) is consistent with concluding that a right to carry firearms in public may promote self-defense."
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December 11th, 2012, 03:28 PM #7
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Link doesn't work. Do you have a better one?
ETA: Found a working link: http://www.nraila.org/media/10814375/stevensopinion.pdfLast edited by Doughdaddy; December 11th, 2012 at 03:52 PM.
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December 11th, 2012, 03:55 PM #8
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Right from the horse's mouth: http://www.saf.org/viewpr-new.asp?id=415
SAF WINS HUGE VICTORY FOR CARRY IN ILLINOIS
For Immediate Release: 12/11/2012
BELLEVUE, WA – The Second Amendment Foundation has won a huge victory for the right to bear arms outside the home, with a ruling in the Seventh Circuit Court of Appeals that declares the right to self-defense is “broader than the right to have a gun in one’s home.”
The case of Moore v. Madigan, with Judge Richards Posner writing for the majority, gives the Illinois legislature 180 days to "craft a new gun law that will impose reasonable limitations, consistent with the public safety and the Second Amendment…on the carrying of guns in public.”
“We are very happy with Judge Posner’s majority opinion,” said SAF founder and Executive Vice President Alan M. Gottlieb. “This is a victory for Illinois citizens who have been long denied a right recognized in the other 49 states; to have the means necessary for self-defense outside the home.
“In the broader sense,” he added, “this ruling affirms that the right to keep and bear arms, itself, extends beyond the boundary of one’s front door. This is a huge victory for the Second Amendment.”
“The Second Amendment,” Judge Posner writes, “states in its entirety that ‘a well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.’ The right to ‘bear’ as distinct from the right to ‘keep’ arms is unlikely to refer to the home. To speak of ‘bearing’ arms within one’s home would at all times have been an awkward usage. A right to bear arms thus implies a right to carry a loaded gun outside the home."
Later, Judge Posner adds, “To confine the right to be armed to the home is to divorce the Second Amendment from the right of self-defense described in Heller and McDonald.”
“That the court will give Illinois lawmakers six months to craft a law allowing carry outside the home recognizes that the right to bear arms means what it says,” Gottlieb concluded. “The ball is now in the Legislature’s court, and we eagerly wait to see how well they can live up to their responsibility.”
The Second Amendment Foundation (www.saf.org) is the nation's oldest and largest tax-exempt education, research, publishing and legal action group focusing on the Constitutional right and heritage to privately own and possess firearms. Founded in 1974, The Foundation has grown to more than 650,000 members and supporters and conducts many programs designed to better inform the public about the consequences of gun control. In addition to the landmark McDonald v. Chicago Supreme Court Case, SAF has previously funded successful firearms-related suits against the cities of Los Angeles; New Haven, CT; New Orleans; Chicago and San Francisco on behalf of American gun owners, a lawsuit against the cities suing gun makers and numerous amicus briefs holding the Second Amendment as an individual right.
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December 11th, 2012, 05:30 PM #9
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This Illinois pro-2nd Amendment court ruling and the Michigan "right-to-work" law seem to be about the only glimmers of light in an otherwise abysmally dark political year. At least it's something to provide hope.
I for one am enjoying watching the leftist thugs running wild, howling through the streets in protest of "right to work" in Michigan of all places.
Now let's see if the anti second-amendment rights lefty scumbags go berserk over the Illinois conceal carry edict. Perhaps we should consider these events as little stocking stuffers to make us feel better this Christmas season."Make peaceful revolution impossible, violent revolution is inevitable." JFK
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December 11th, 2012, 05:37 PM #10Grand Member
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Re: Court strikes down Illinois concealed carry law
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/l...,7034171.story
House Majority Leader Barbara Flynn Currie, a longtime gun control advocate, said she hoped the state would appeal the ruling. But Currie also said lawmakers must “get cracking” on how to respond to the ruling and begin parsing its key points.
Currie, D-Chicago, said that “justices surely do not mean that we would have to have wide-open” laws in Illinois. She said Illinois must now look at what other states are doing, such as disallowing guns in day-care centers and other locations.
“If we need to change the law, let us at least craft a law that is very severely constrained and narrowly tailored so that we don’t invite guns out of control on each of our city’s streets,” Currie said. “I don’t want people out of control wandering the streets with guns that are out of control.”
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